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VetteCop · Senior Member

RE: Vacancies

21to25andOut · Member

nycop80 wrote:
Dcas website is not official ? Are you sure?

You need to go back and read my last 3 posts.

thats not what i said. What i said was my DCAS Dashboard is ***NOT*** updated with seniority points, score, or eligibility points AND that NO ONE HERE has been OFFICIALLY NOTIFIED of their score! Everyone PASSED AROUND A PDF FILE they got from a FRIEND. thats not how you get notified from an exam. They will email you and your dashboard will be updated when it is finalized. not by a random text or whats app message with a PDF FILE of names. Its **NOT** official. These makeup exam passers were not even listed in that pdf file going around. expect your actual list # to drop a few places after makeup exam PASSERS push you down. ITs NOT 100% over! No one has fractional Points ON THEIR DCAS DASHBOARD. Until you get that email! And dashboard is updated. we all have a 99% accurate score and list # but subtle changes WILL OCCUR based on common damn sense.

-- Edited by 21to25andOut on Thursday 29th of December 2022 06:23:39 AM

nycop80 · Guru

Dcas is fake site now. Please get off the cool aid.

Zeph · Senior Member

This 21to25andout guy spent all that time writing those useless messages to pretty much say nothing. That list is an official document that came from personnel. Dcas also posted their own list. Get real guy. They always add makeup exam takers to the list. You said nothing new here.

Chew11 · Senior Member

The obsession people have with a dcas dashboard is alarming.

WhiteCastleCop · Veteran Member

SMH respect the guidelines never forget the 9 heroes

Leslie · Guru

21to25andOut wrote:
nycop80 wrote:
Dcas website is not official ? Are you sure?
You need to go back and read my last 3 posts.
thats not what i said. What i said was my DCAS Dashboard is ***NOT*** updated with seniority points, score, or eligibility points AND that NO ONE HERE has been OFFICIALLY NOTIFIED of their score! Everyone PASSED AROUND A PDF FILE they got from a FRIEND. thats not how you get notified from an exam. They will email you and your dashboard will be updated when it is finalized. not by a random text or whats app message with a PDF FILE of names. Its **NOT** official. These makeup exam passers were not even listed in that pdf file going around. expect your actual list # to drop a few places after makeup exam PASSERS push you down. ITs NOT 100% over! No one has fractional Points ON THEIR DCAS DASHBOARD. Until you get that email! And dashboard is updated. we all have a 99% accurate score and list # but subtle changes WILL OCCUR based on common damn sense.

-- Edited by 21to25andOut on Thursday 29th of December 2022 06:23:39 AM

Sorry bud but its an official list. Personnel is in charge of adding the points. DCAS will make absolutely no changes as they are the ones that forward the list for the updates personnel makes. Only other update will be make up people as they come but doesnt hold up promotions.

Bill Parcells · Senior Member

21to25andOut wrote:
nycop80 wrote:
Dcas website is not official ? Are you sure?
You need to go back and read my last 3 posts.
thats not what i said. What i said was my DCAS Dashboard is ***NOT*** updated with seniority points, score, or eligibility points AND that NO ONE HERE has been OFFICIALLY NOTIFIED of their score! Everyone PASSED AROUND A PDF FILE they got from a FRIEND. thats not how you get notified from an exam. They will email you and your dashboard will be updated when it is finalized. not by a random text or whats app message with a PDF FILE of names. Its **NOT** official. These makeup exam passers were not even listed in that pdf file going around. expect your actual list # to drop a few places after makeup exam PASSERS push you down. ITs NOT 100% over! No one has fractional Points ON THEIR DCAS DASHBOARD. Until you get that email! And dashboard is updated. we all have a 99% accurate score and list # but subtle changes WILL OCCUR based on common damn sense.

-- Edited by 21to25andOut on Thursday 29th of December 2022 06:23:39 AM

The list is real. guess you failed. Respect the guidelines.

21to25andOut · Member

Bill Parcells wrote:
21to25andOut wrote:
nycop80 wrote:
Dcas website is not official ? Are you sure?
You need to go back and read my last 3 posts.
thats not what i said. What i said was my DCAS Dashboard is ***NOT*** updated with seniority points, score, or eligibility points AND that NO ONE HERE has been OFFICIALLY NOTIFIED of their score! Everyone PASSED AROUND A PDF FILE they got from a FRIEND. thats not how you get notified from an exam. They will email you and your dashboard will be updated when it is finalized. not by a random text or whats app message with a PDF FILE of names. Its **NOT** official. These makeup exam passers were not even listed in that pdf file going around. expect your actual list # to drop a few places after makeup exam PASSERS push you down. ITs NOT 100% over! No one has fractional Points ON THEIR DCAS DASHBOARD. Until you get that email! And dashboard is updated. we all have a 99% accurate score and list # but subtle changes WILL OCCUR based on common damn sense.

-- Edited by 21to25andOut on Thursday 29th of December 2022 06:23:39 AM
The list is real. guess you failed. Respect the guidelines.
Hey retard i guess u failed. I didnt say EVER that the list was fake. I clearly said in fuking english, its 99% accurate but be aware when the Make Up Exam Passers are Entered people will have adjusted fking list numbers. some of you people on here cant read to make any proper argument. Bill P, leslie, dr1983 = Morons.

-- Edited by 21to25andOut on Friday 30th of December 2022 03:49:28 AM

Bill Parcells · Senior Member

21to25andOut wrote:
Bill Parcells wrote:
21to25andOut wrote:
nycop80 wrote:
Dcas website is not official ? Are you sure?
You need to go back and read my last 3 posts.
thats not what i said. What i said was my DCAS Dashboard is ***NOT*** updated with seniority points, score, or eligibility points AND that NO ONE HERE has been OFFICIALLY NOTIFIED of their score! Everyone PASSED AROUND A PDF FILE they got from a FRIEND. thats not how you get notified from an exam. They will email you and your dashboard will be updated when it is finalized. not by a random text or whats app message with a PDF FILE of names. Its **NOT** official. These makeup exam passers were not even listed in that pdf file going around. expect your actual list # to drop a few places after makeup exam PASSERS push you down. ITs NOT 100% over! No one has fractional Points ON THEIR DCAS DASHBOARD. Until you get that email! And dashboard is updated. we all have a 99% accurate score and list # but subtle changes WILL OCCUR based on common damn sense.

-- Edited by 21to25andOut on Thursday 29th of December 2022 06:23:39 AM
The list is real. guess you failed. Respect the guidelines.
Hey retard i guess u failed. I didnt say EVER that the list was fake. I clearly said in fuking english, its 99% accurate but be aware when the Make Up Exam Passers are Entered people will have adjusted fking list numbers. some of you people on here cant read to make any proper argument. Bill P, leslie, dr1983 = Morons.

-- Edited by 21to25andOut on Friday 30th of December 2022 03:49:28 AM

Adjustments to the list happen all the time. That dcas pdf list is the list. Any amendments they'll just simply add the people to the promotional class that corresponds to their grade. Everyone knows this. With your hostility there is no way you passed. Respect the guidelines.

-- Edited by Bill Parcells on Friday 30th of December 2022 03:53:37 AM

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

Any update on the current vacancies?

Richmond121 · Member

2 and 22 on terminal. Dont worry. A lot of vacancies for DI and above. Just have to wait until Captains are promoted.

ullage amount · Veteran Member

I am glad that PBA signed a decent contract and expect the same for LBA and CEA. With that said I expect retirements come to a screeching halt. Dont be surprised when CEA signs their contract, some captains on terminal will join PD again. Thats the reality guys and gals.

-- Edited by ullage amount on Thursday 6th of April 2023 03:49:23 PM

brooklynbacon · Guru

Yes if every rank gets a decent bump then it will definitely slow down every single ranks promotions.

machine · Senior Member

It always makes sense to do just one more year, but whoever stays because of a different contract is a loser. Then again, the job is full of them. It wouldnt surprise me either or, but if all things being the same, a few extra dollars in the paycheck shouldnt have a significant effect on the current rate of retirement.

HopeBoss · Senior Member

What yall think the new Capt base and total compensation will be ? Its at $192k now correct ?

Happy Paddy · Member

Me and my friend are both on the list, north of 150. We both have 17 years. I said I stay Lt and get the OT and retire at 20. He said to me. Are you going to stay home or get a new job. I said I definitely not going to stay home. He said so why not take the promotion then? Because you are not going to find a new job and make more money. So why not treat the promotion as a new job after retirement. Plus 8% on that overage of my ITHP (300,000). What do you guys think of my friends reasoning?

brooklynbacon · Guru

Happy Paddy wrote:
Me and my friend are both on the list, north of 150. We both have 17 years. I said I stay Lt and get the OT and retire at 20. He said to me. Are you going to stay home or get a new job. I said I definitely not going to stay home. He said so why not take the promotion then? Because you are not going to find a new job and make more money. So why not treat the promotion as a new job after retirement. Plus 8% on that overage of my ITHP (300,000). What do you guys think of my friends reasoning?

No one here knows your life. Go to a pension seminar or sit down with a financial planner. Half of us have 0% deferred comp and drive expensive cars.

TransitCop · Senior Member

Happy Paddy wrote:
Me and my friend are both on the list, north of 150. We both have 17 years. I said I stay Lt and get the OT and retire at 20. He said to me. Are you going to stay home or get a new job. I said I definitely not going to stay home. He said so why not take the promotion then? Because you are not going to find a new job and make more money. So why not treat the promotion as a new job after retirement. Plus 8% on that overage of my ITHP (300,000). What do you guys think of my friends reasoning?

If you still enjoy coming to work after 20 then stay until that feelings goes away. But remember you can always make more money but you can never get time back so dont put off things either. Id rather be 50 retired pursuing my interests with smaller pension then 60 with more money but no will or health to do things with it.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

With 3 years left Id just take the promo and see how it goes. Get to retire a captain anyway. Only thing that would stop me is if I was in a good detail as Lt.

ullage amount · Veteran Member

Take the promotion.
Fellas, if that pilot program with longer hours proves to be workable, and they are running different scenarios, I am 100% confident the overtime across all ranks will be cut dramatically. So forget about adding or fattening your numbers with 40-50k of overtime there is a reason why they are giving all unions decent raise
Keep in mind, you will find better paying jobs as a retired captain. Executive experience counts especially if you back it up with higher education or possess certain expertise (ballistics expert, crime scene, ESU/HNT, financial crimes etc)
Another angle to look at it. With new cpt raise, top pay cpt will make 220k. If you have none of those experiences I mentioned above who is gonna pay 220k in private sector? May as well stay here longer

wereinbacklog · Guru

brooklynbacon wrote:
Happy Paddy wrote:
Me and my friend are both on the list, north of 150. We both have 17 years. I said I stay Lt and get the OT and retire at 20. He said to me. Are you going to stay home or get a new job. I said I definitely not going to stay home. He said so why not take the promotion then? Because you are not going to find a new job and make more money. So why not treat the promotion as a new job after retirement. Plus 8% on that overage of my ITHP (300,000). What do you guys think of my friends reasoning?
No one here knows your life. Go to a pension seminar or sit down with a financial planner. Half of us have 0% deferred comp and drive expensive cars.

Truer words have never been spoken. Some cops are willing to forego maxing 457/401 with upcoming retro to pay high taxes and spent what's left.

HopeBoss · Senior Member

ullage amount wrote:
Take the promotion.
Fellas, if that pilot program with longer hours proves to be workable, and they are running different scenarios, I am 100% confident the overtime across all ranks will be cut dramatically. So forget about adding or fattening your numbers with 40-50k of overtime there is a reason why they are giving all unions decent raise
Keep in mind, you will find better paying jobs as a retired captain. Executive experience counts especially if you back it up with higher education or possess certain expertise (ballistics expert, crime scene, ESU/HNT, financial crimes etc)
Another angle to look at it. With new cpt raise, top pay cpt will make 220k. If you have none of those experiences I mentioned above who is gonna pay 220k in private sector? May as well stay here longer

How are the tier 3 Capts going to handle this ? Their pensions wont go up after 25 years and theyll have a lose of senior leadership

Nypdnypd3100 · Senior Member

By retiring at 25 years. Doesnt make sense financially to stay after 25 years if you are tier 3.

skelgel · Senior Member

Nypdnypd3100 wrote:
By retiring at 25 years. Doesnt make sense financially to stay after 25 years if you are tier 3.

in that same line, it doesnt even make sense to accrue time as tier 3 captain. Many captains and above take ot in time and leave at one point but are still on the books and end up retiring years later depending on how much time accrued. But for a tier 3 that doesnt benefit because anything pass 25 is a wash, so why accrue time at all? Does anyone have a diff mindset of this they can share?

Nypdnypd3100 · Senior Member

Yes I do. Although I see people now who break their backs their last year (tier 2), that doesnt work for tier 3. Tier 3 is an average of any 5 consecutive years. Youd have to crush it for 5 years for it to make sense. Im tier 3. I still plan on building up atleast 3 years of time, and retiring at 22 years. And then burning my time til I hit 25 years. To me I will have financially planned and invested my money so that all I care about is getting a decent pension at 25 years. I dont care if theres overtime in it. 3 years with my family, during my younger years is more valuable to me than working my ass off for 5 years straight, commuting into the city 5 days a week, and incurring all of the stress. I know a lot of people wont agree with this, but thats my outlook. Happy Easter all.

skelgel · Senior Member

Nypdnypd3100 wrote:
Yes I do. Although I see people now who break their backs their last year (tier 2), that doesnt work for tier 3. Tier 3 is an average of any 5 consecutive years. Youd have to crush it for 5 years for it to make sense. Im tier 3. I still plan on building up atleast 3 years of time, and retiring at 22 years. And then burning my time til I hit 25 years. To me I will have financially planned and invested my money so that all I care about is getting a decent pension at 25 years. I dont care if theres overtime in it. 3 years with my family, during my younger years is more valuable to me than working my ass off for 5 years straight, commuting into the city 5 days a week, and incurring all of the stress. I know a lot of people wont agree with this, but thats my outlook. Happy Easter all.

I would probably do the same. However I can see people killing it because that 10k in cash per year capts get can be the equivalent of a car payment upon retirement. But yeah I think id do 22 and accrue 3 years in time to total the 25.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

I'm in the minority, but the 25 year pension isn't all that great. It takes years for the escalation to build up to a point of a noticeable impact. If for example, you were able to retire at 22 and save all your pension payments for 3 years (which is what the city is doing when you stay past service retirement) and invested it, you'd surpass what you get from the extra 25 year escalation. It would never catch up.

Nypdnypd3100 · Senior Member

Then you are probably tier 2. But tier 3 needs to stay for 25 years in order to get the COLA.

Chew11 · Senior Member

All good info above. Anyone have an update on vacancies ?

countryroads · Senior Member

Nypdnypd3100 wrote:
Then you are probably tier 2. But tier 3 needs to stay for 25 years in order to get the COLA.

Yeah, the COLA is probably the only thing tier 3 has that's legitimately good. Anyone who's tier 3 would be crazy not to stay to 25 to get it.

HopeBoss · Senior Member

Nypdnypd3100 wrote:
Yes I do. Although I see people now who break their backs their last year (tier 2), that doesnt work for tier 3. Tier 3 is an average of any 5 consecutive years. Youd have to crush it for 5 years for it to make sense. Im tier 3. I still plan on building up atleast 3 years of time, and retiring at 22 years. And then burning my time til I hit 25 years. To me I will have financially planned and invested my money so that all I care about is getting a decent pension at 25 years. I dont care if theres overtime in it. 3 years with my family, during my younger years is more valuable to me than working my ass off for 5 years straight, commuting into the city 5 days a week, and incurring all of the stress. I know a lot of people wont agree with this, but thats my outlook. Happy Easter all.

You dont even have to worry about ot if you make capt

InsideGuy · Senior Member

Chew11 wrote:
All good info above. Anyone have an update on vacancies ?

Exactly lol

RookieScum4Life · Senior Member

Vacancies as of 4/13/23

Sergeants 555 (3602 out of 4109 with 17 on Leave W/O Pay, 22 on Leave W/Pay, 1 Susp W/O Pay, 2 Susp W/Pay, and 34 on Terminal)

Lieutenants 29 (1428 out of 1444 with 3 on Leave W/O Pay, 10 on Leave W/Pay, and 20 on Terminal)

Captains 0 (354 out of 350 with 4 on Leave W/Pay and 22 on Terminal)

DI 36 (145 out of 180 with 1 on Leave W/O Pay and 15 on Terminal)

-- Edited by RookieScum4Life on Thursday 13th of April 2023 07:35:35 PM

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Promotions on the 28th. 20-25 Captains, remaining Lts (8). Lots of changes coming. As always, Intel is subject to change.

3testwonder · Senior Member

Dr papi any intel with Lt exam? Is that scale curve in play?

RamJamFlamSong · Senior Member

Ah short 555 Sergeants, in a surplus of Captains. Let's promote more captains. Makes sense.

Res123 · Veteran Member

Yeah I wouldnt listen to any Dr Papi Intel.

-Captains test wont be curved: Wrong
-2022 Sgt list out mid march: Wrong

rEsPeCT tHE gUidElInES

PD2FD · Guru

RamJamFlamSong wrote:
Ah short 555 Sergeants, in a surplus of Captains. Let's promote more captains. Makes sense.

The terminal numbers for Captains count as a vacancy. So 22 terminal= 22 vacancies. Captains can be on terminal for years with all the time they build up.

countryroads · Senior Member

PD2FD wrote:
RamJamFlamSong wrote:
Ah short 555 Sergeants, in a surplus of Captains. Let's promote more captains. Makes sense.
The terminal numbers for Captains count as a vacancy. So 22 terminal= 22 vacancies. Captains can be on terminal for years with all the time they build up.

So that puts Sergeant vacancies even closer to 600. It doesn't make sense why they're waiting so long.

RookieScum4Life · Senior Member

countryroads wrote:
PD2FD wrote:
RamJamFlamSong wrote:
Ah short 555 Sergeants, in a surplus of Captains. Let's promote more captains. Makes sense.
The terminal numbers for Captains count as a vacancy. So 22 terminal= 22 vacancies. Captains can be on terminal for years with all the time they build up.
So that puts Sergeant vacancies even closer to 600. It doesn't make sense why they're waiting so long.

Terminal leave numbers only count towards vacancies for Captains and above.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Res123 wrote:
Yeah I wouldnt listen to any Dr Papi Intel.

-Captains test wont be curved: Wrong
-2022 Sgt list out mid march: Wrong

rEsPeCT tHE gUidElInES

Smh. I said list WILL BE CURVED and it was. Original passers were 115. After curve, list is over 485. Respect the guidelines.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Sergeants list will be out soon. List will also be curved.

Res123 · Veteran Member

You have been saying soon since January.
Care to offer a specific timeline?

There are countless cops on this forum and the job at large that are so desperately awaiting a promotion or hoping they make the list. Continuing to offer a false hope and promising the unknown is reckless and straight up wrong to do to fellow cops.

Maybe it will be out soon, or maybe it wont
It might get curved, it might just be the FOIL lists the Key provided.

Bottom line is you clearly dont know.
And the people that do know, sure as shit arent posting on this forum.

Everyone is tired of your charade.

.

rEsPeCT tHe GUidElINES

HopeBoss · Senior Member

Res123 wrote:
You have been saying soon since January.
Care to offer a specific timeline?

There are countless cops on this forum and the job at large that are so desperately awaiting a promotion or hoping they make the list. Continuing to offer a false hope and promising the unknown is reckless and straight up wrong to do to fellow cops.

Maybe it will be out soon, or maybe it wont
It might get curved, it might just be the FOIL lists the Key provided.

Bottom line is you clearly dont know.
And the people that do know, sure as shit arent posting on this forum.

Everyone is tired of your charade.

.

rEsPeCT tHe GUidElINES

Hes a fraud !!!!

DRPapi1983 · Guru

SMH. Respect your elders and respect the guidelines

brooklynbacon · Guru

DRPapi1983 wrote:
Res123 wrote:
Yeah I wouldnt listen to any Dr Papi Intel.

-Captains test wont be curved: Wrong
-2022 Sgt list out mid march: Wrong

rEsPeCT tHE gUidElInES
Smh. I said list WILL BE CURVED and it was. Original passers were 115. After curve, list is over 485. Respect the guidelines.

115 original passers is completely false. People with raw scores in the 70s are much higher than that. Please dont spread false info like that.

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

brooklynbacon wrote:
DRPapi1983 wrote:
Res123 wrote:
Yeah I wouldnt listen to any Dr Papi Intel.

-Captains test wont be curved: Wrong
-2022 Sgt list out mid march: Wrong

rEsPeCT tHE gUidElInES
Smh. I said list WILL BE CURVED and it was. Original passers were 115. After curve, list is over 485. Respect the guidelines.
115 original passers is completely false. People with raw scores in the 70s are much higher than that. Please dont spread false info like that.

Confirm bacons post. Raw score 70 on test day is in the ballpark of 230 on this list.

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

Any update on the vacancies?

Zeph · Senior Member

I know some who scored 70 that are in low 300s. Some guys that scored 71 are in 270s and 280s.