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DRPapi1983 · Guru

Throwouts/Protest Session

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

Truthseeker wrote:
Youre exam had over 200 passers. Yes I know and no I wont reveal how. Thats a very decent pass rate before throw outs

A record number of people took the exam! How is that a decent pass rate?! By the time the list comes out next year there will be over 50 vacancies!

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

Please dont tell me you were one of the exam writers truth seeker?! Go figure!

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

DRPapi1983 wrote:
Based on the feedback I got, most questions were not protestable. They were carefully crafted. At most you will see 1-2 questions (throw out \ double answer). But remember, the TVB doesn't have to change the answer key. Many were surprised at their screens today ! 120 is the number I have and have to stick to unless I hear otherwise. Better luck next time to those that didn't pass. It was a hard exam !

Wrong again drpapi..200plus passers and probably 6-8 throwouts. I successfully protested 5 questions myself!

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

PD2FD wrote:
Leslie wrote:
PD2FD wrote:
Theforceisstrongwiththisone wrote:
Yea i fought for every question I got wrong. Hopefully can pick up some points for all of us. Idk about you guys but i was so pissed going back through that exam. The exam writers should be ashamed of themselves for submitting those questions! Totally nonsense! In the end we are our own worst enemy. The end of my promotional exam journey is over but the fight of the 9 heroes will live on forever!
You could thank Juan and the other POS captain for this garbage of an exam! These guys are the new Vucinaj.
I blame the job and dcas
Everyone involved is to blame. From the exam writers, to DCAS, to the NYPD. No one put in a good effort to create a decent/fair exam.
I feel bad for the Sgts about to take the Lieutenants exam. I'm hearing the LTs that will be selected will only have 6 weeks to create questions for that exam. The captain exam writers only had 8 weeks, so just imagine the debacle-to-be with the LT's exam.

Im praying the Lts will get a fair and valid exam. Considering most of the writers probably took the 2017 exam which was fair and validim hoping they remember what a fair and valid exam looks like. These capt exam writers screwed us hard! Many of our brothers and sisters wont make it because of this 2022 capt exam debacle.

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

Leslie wrote:
PD2FD wrote:
Theforceisstrongwiththisone wrote:
Yea i fought for every question I got wrong. Hopefully can pick up some points for all of us. Idk about you guys but i was so pissed going back through that exam. The exam writers should be ashamed of themselves for submitting those questions! Totally nonsense! In the end we are our own worst enemy. The end of my promotional exam journey is over but the fight of the 9 heroes will live on forever!
You could thank Juan and the other POS captain for this garbage of an exam! These guys are the new Vucinaj.
I blame the job and dcas

Finally something leslie and I agree on!

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Exam was tough,.....arguably the hardest Captain exam administered in years ! You should all be proud of yourselves,....

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Captain exams are historically brutal. They're not meant to be passed in high numbers. The board (TVB) also don't give us all the questions ,.....guess they like to keep these lists short. The 2017 was the exam to take (super easy). Guess they're back to regular programming ,........

PD2FD · Guru

Truthseeker wrote:
Youre exam had over 200 passers. Yes I know and no I wont reveal how. Thats a very decent pass rate before throw outs

It still doesn't negate the fact that it was a poorly written exam. This exam was the first for tier 3 guys/gals so you had a lot of competition and motivated people.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

If this is true then it is what it is ,.dont expect the TBV to throwout / doubles any questions. 200 names is a great list. Besides, based on what Im hearing (except Queens,people showed up there ,about 25,..) not many showed up and fought.

-- Edited by DRPapi1983 on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 01:42:09 AM

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-- Edited by DRPapi1983 on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 01:44:27 AM

SonsOfXavier1997 · Senior Member

Yeah no one there at my session either. Thought there d be more. They took a lot of motivation and killed it with this exam. End of day I dont think the prep classes prepare u except for Rising Star cause they pull from anywhere.

Bill Parcells · Senior Member

SonsOfXavier1997 wrote:
Yeah no one there at my session either. Thought there d be more. They took a lot of motivation and killed it with this exam. End of day I dont think the prep classes prepare u except for Rising Star cause they pull from anywhere.

Were you at the Brooklyn location? the only protest date was today correct?

FranknBeans · Senior Member

DRPapi1983 wrote:
If this is true then it is what it is ,.dont expect the TBV to throwout / doubles any questions. 200 names is a great list. Besides, based on what Im hearing (except Queens,people showed up there ,about 25,..) not many showed up and fought.

-- Edited by DRPapi1983 on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 01:42:09 AM

-- Edited by DRPapi1983 on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 01:44:00 AM

-- Edited by DRPapi1983 on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 01:44:27 AM

The protest session doesn't end until October 13th

SonsOfXavier1997 · Senior Member

I was at queens location

tweezy · Senior Member

Can we talk about these questions already? I protested 6 questions and I think we have a legit shot at 3-4 double/throw outs.

-- Edited by tweezy on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 08:54:41 PM

brooklynbacon · Guru

tweezy wrote:
Can we talk about these questions already? I protested 6 questions and I think we have a legit shot at 3-4 double/throw outs.

-- Edited by tweezy on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 08:54:41 PM

No unless you want the makeup exam takers to score higher than you.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

No brother. Don't talk about questions. Don't let these scamming ass LIEUTENANTS pass you! Believe me , they're on here to garnish any intel.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Agreed ,.........what's the rush to talk about it ? Stand tall soldier ! Hold your ground and keep it shut !

SonsOfXavier1997 · Senior Member

I know one who banged out LODI and is going to take the make up. Question tho I thought the makeup was a different test now since 2015 Vucinaj exam is there truth to that ?

DRPapi1983 · Guru

SonsOfXavier1997 wrote:
I know one who banged out LODI and is going to take the make up. Question tho I thought the makeup was a different test now since 2015 Vucinaj exam is there truth to that ?

Not sure but wouldnt want to know. Just dont discuss the exam unless you want these clowns to pass you! You studied very hard for your results. Dont let it happen.

JDMEVO9 · Senior Member

if you talk to enough people

the exam is 10000% different among the AM and PM test takers. Definitely diff for make up exam.

the questions were similiar but completely different answer choices and slight subtle differences.

everyone on here scamming a make up exam, Good Luck trying to figure out questions.

-- Edited by JDMEVO9 on Thursday 15th of September 2022 07:17:52 AM

-- Edited by JDMEVO9 on Thursday 15th of September 2022 07:18:57 AM

DRPapi1983 · Guru

It was a very difficult exam. Many are in the 45-55 range,others in the 55-66. Based on what Im hearing, these questions were barely protest-able. It was there! This is why you needed to do those Rising Star questions and The Key questions and re-writes. They were on point. Mike and his same easy questions (written slightly different smh), bells and whistles gave many false hope. These exams are designed to wipe out most people taking it. Yes, everything is fair game, this is why The Key never said to just study this or that. They gave you content germane to the rank you were studying for and that is what you saw on exam day! Many told me that the questions that they protested were tight. They dont see many getting changed (at most 2!). We will soon find out.

tweezy · Senior Member

There were about 4 protest-able questions that they might actually be double and throw outs. Not as air tight as you think

DRPapi1983 · Guru

tweezy wrote:
There were about 4 protest-able questions that they might actually be double and throw outs. Not as air tight as you think

Dont want to get into the specifics ,..these guys/gals looked at the questions closely with the Patrol Guide right next to them. They were in shock brother. Very disappointed that these examiners made such a difficult exam.

Truthseeker · Guru

I will tell you that I had nothing to do w this test so I have no clue the difficulty. But just bc a test is difficult doesnt make it unfair. As I stated alil over 200 passed before protests and makeups. Around 700ish sat for test so that around a 30 percent pass rate. This is just personal stuff when I say anyone who studied smartly and correctly that I know passed. Those who tried not putting time in and skating did not. Theres more to these tests then just reading a guide. Its time management, hardcore dedication, and some luck Ofcourse doesnt hurt.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Truthseeker wrote:
I will tell you that I had nothing to do w this test so I have no clue the difficulty. But just bc a test is difficult doesnt make it unfair. As I stated alil over 200 passed before protests and makeups. Around 700ish sat for test so that around a 30 percent pass rate. This is just personal stuff when I say anyone who studied smartly and correctly that I know passed. Those who tried not putting time in and skating did not. Theres more to these tests then just reading a guide. Its time management, hardcore dedication, and some luck Ofcourse doesnt hurt.

I agree with you somewhat,but guess what ? A few of my buddies that didnt pass got anywhere from a 57 to a 67. They all went to class. Some of the guys in the top of the 2017 LT list got a 70-73. Ask around,.... it was a very difficult test,..no bullshit! A lot of people that studied their asses off failed. We just cannot write them off like that. A few of them that took Mikes course and went to The Keys CRAM (last minute) were surprised at the amount AG procedures they covered. They pretty much nailed it. All you saw was Captain questions ,......Ask around. It is what it is brother.

-- Edited by DRPapi1983 on Thursday 15th of September 2022 03:16:44 PM

-- Edited by DRPapi1983 on Thursday 15th of September 2022 03:23:34 PM

JDMEVO9 · Senior Member

tweezy wrote:
There were about 4 protest-able questions that they might actually be double and throw outs. Not as air tight as you think

100% FACTS!

DRPapi1983 · Guru

JDMEVO9 wrote:
tweezy wrote:
There were about 4 protest-able questions that they might actually be double and throw outs. Not as air tight as you think
100% FACTS!

We will soon find out.

Bill Parcells · Senior Member

DRPapi1983 wrote:
It was a very difficult exam. Many are in the 45-55 range,others in the 55-66. Based on what Im hearing, these questions were barely protest-able. It was there! This is why you needed to do those Rising Star questions and The Key questions and re-writes. They were on point. Mike and his same easy questions (written slightly different smh), bells and whistles gave many false hope. These exams are designed to wipe out most people taking it. Yes, everything is fair game, this is why The Key never said to just study this or that. They gave you content germane to the rank you were studying for and that is what you saw on exam day! Many told me that the questions that they protested were tight. They dont see many getting changed (at most 2!). We will soon find out.

DrPapi: Key employee. End is near, good luck to all!

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Bill Parcells wrote:
DRPapi1983 wrote:
It was a very difficult exam. Many are in the 45-55 range,others in the 55-66. Based on what Im hearing, these questions were barely protest-able. It was there! This is why you needed to do those Rising Star questions and The Key questions and re-writes. They were on point. Mike and his same easy questions (written slightly different smh), bells and whistles gave many false hope. These exams are designed to wipe out most people taking it. Yes, everything is fair game, this is why The Key never said to just study this or that. They gave you content germane to the rank you were studying for and that is what you saw on exam day! Many told me that the questions that they protested were tight. They dont see many getting changed (at most 2!). We will soon find out.
DrPapi: Key employee. End is near, good luck to all!

Lmaooooooo,bro, dont care about ANY of the schools ! Thats a fact! I actually like all of the schools but based on what people are saying, your boy Mike dropped the ball telling all the students NOT to study this or that..other schools tested you on EVERYTHING! Mike, he didn't do that ,.Hence why so many of his students flocked over to the other schools last minute,..but it was too late. Damage was done! Guess theyll pick another school when they announce a Captains exam in 2 years.

-- Edited by DRPapi1983 on Saturday 17th of September 2022 02:23:14 PM

JustWonderin · Guru

Dr papi is a clown. I know his true identity

PD2FD · Guru

Can't be worse than Juan Moran aka Vucinaj 2.0 aka horrible exam writer. Unless DRpapi is Juan???

brooklynbacon · Guru

PD2FD wrote:
Can't be worse than Juan Moran aka Vucinaj 2.0 aka horrible exam writer. Unless DRpapi is Juan???

This exam wasnt even on the same planet as that disgusting Lt exam. At least on this test you knew the questions came from the patrol/admin guide.

-- Edited by brooklynbacon on Friday 23rd of September 2022 03:39:45 PM

DRPapi1983 · Guru

brooklynbacon wrote:
PD2FD wrote:
Can't be worse than Juan Moran aka Vucinaj 2.0 aka horrible exam writer. Unless DRpapi is Juan???
This exam wasnt even on the same planet as that disgusting Lt exam. At least on this test you knew the questions came from the patrol/admin guide.

-- Edited by brooklynbacon on Friday 23rd of September 2022 03:39:45 PM

Dont compare me to that clown POS! Than you!

PD2FD · Guru

DRPapi1983 wrote:
brooklynbacon wrote:
PD2FD wrote:
Can't be worse than Juan Moran aka Vucinaj 2.0 aka horrible exam writer. Unless DRpapi is Juan???
This exam wasnt even on the same planet as that disgusting Lt exam. At least on this test you knew the questions came from the patrol/admin guide.

-- Edited by brooklynbacon on Friday 23rd of September 2022 03:39:45 PM
Dont compare me to that clown POS! Than you!

Hahaha all jokes brother! I know you won't do that to your own brothers in blue.

Leslie · Guru

Great. So long story short no one has any new info other than complain about past exams and Doctor Echo posting the same crap everyone else has already posted as new intel. Got it, thanks.

HopeBoss · Senior Member

DRPapi1983 wrote:
It was a very difficult exam. Many are in the 45-55 range,others in the 55-66. Based on what Im hearing, these questions were barely protest-able. It was there! This is why you needed to do those Rising Star questions and The Key questions and re-writes. They were on point. Mike and his same easy questions (written slightly different smh), bells and whistles gave many false hope. These exams are designed to wipe out most people taking it. Yes, everything is fair game, this is why The Key never said to just study this or that. They gave you content germane to the rank you were studying for and that is what you saw on exam day! Many told me that the questions that they protested were tight. They dont see many getting changed (at most 2!). We will soon find out.

Does this guy work for the key ?

Wooly · Veteran Member

100% trying to sell those LT classes

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Wooly wrote:
100% trying to sell those LT classes

LOL hell no! Just giving you guys the feedback out here. Mike left manny high and dry. Not a good look. They will be flocking to other schools. if You think Im selling you the key, then youre off your rocker ! I keep telling you a lot of Mikes students are sick of his bs,..telling everyone not to study material that was on the exam smh. Not selling the Key or Rising Star! I could care less what path to promotions you guys take. FOH!

brooklynbacon · Guru

DRPapi1983 wrote:
Wooly wrote:
100% trying to sell those LT classes
LOL hell no! Just giving you guys the feedback out here. Mike left manny high and dry. Not a good look. They will be flocking to other schools. if You think Im selling you the key, then youre off your rocker ! I keep telling you a lot of Mikes students are sick of his bs,..telling everyone not to study material that was on the exam smh. Not selling the Key or Rising Star! I could care less what path to promotions you guys take. FOH!

I only used Elite and scored higher than you. Im thinking of getting a Yanosik tattoo since he helped me pass three tests.

Leslie · Guru

DRPapi1983 wrote:
Wooly wrote:
100% trying to sell those LT classes
LOL hell no! Just giving you guys the feedback out here. Mike left manny high and dry. Not a good look. They will be flocking to other schools. if You think Im selling you the key, then youre off your rocker ! I keep telling you a lot of Mikes students are sick of his bs,..telling everyone not to study material that was on the exam smh. Not selling the Key or Rising Star! I could care less what path to promotions you guys take. FOH!

Another garbage post with no useful info.

NJohn33 · Veteran Member

romer?