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gmen18 · Senior Member

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Noice · Senior Member

If they promote lts then they will definitely promote sgts. If the promotion date is the 25th the sgts bmoc would start probably on the 7th. So if its happening the finest will come down at the end of next week. We shall see.

Quickdraw · Member

gmen18 wrote:
any rumors? LT promos picking up steam
Nothing picking up steam.its all rumors

brooklynbacon · Guru

Lynch will announce the next bmoc at tonights RNC.

Futureauxiliary · Guru

Lts have over 210 vacancies available. Each day that passes the number goes up by a few. Not sure about the Sgts vacancies but if the Dept decides to fill vacancies, you can add another 200+ vacancies from LTs as they will take from Sgts to promote and fill Lts. If both ranks have a deficit of 200+ vacancies that puts Sgts well over 400+ vacancies.

Waiting too long · Veteran Member

Lts forum saying no promos for the forceable future.

rookiebit_h · Guru

Waiting too long wrote:
Lts forum saying no promos for the forceable future.

those two are negative nancys dont listen to them

samuroy · Veteran Member

Heres what I was told: a request was put in to City Hall for 70 LTs and 140 SGTs, but City hall wont get back until after Labor Day. I dont know how long after Labor Day or how much they will approve. Ie: if they would approve all of the request, half the request or none.

3rdtimetheCharm · Senior Member

samuroy wrote:
Heres what I was told: a request was put in to City Hall for 70 LTs and 140 SGTs, but City hall wont get back until after Labor Day. I dont know how long after Labor Day or how much they will approve. Ie: if they would approve all of the request, half the request or none.

Since when did city hall have to approve promotions?

samuroy · Veteran Member

Im just sharing what I was told. I dont know much else.

Waiting too long · Veteran Member

Source from CAD said October Police Officers academy is a no go, normally they wouldve been notified by Monday if it was going in to get all the staff in academy ready. Also another source is saying October Sgts class is 50/50 depending on City Hall. I honestly think theyre not going to promote anyone until they figure out this whole lay-off thing through out all the agencies. Its a bad look to promote sgts and lts when they lay off civilians a week later.

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

Who gives a **** if it's a bad look, commands need sgts badly. Enough is enough.

yougonow · Guru

Layoff will not affect PD and at today's rally the comptroller himself said Deblasio just doesn't know how to count and the cash is available.

20Nout · Veteran Member

Hey guys, I heard from someone in personnel that the Dept is trying to put in classes of 100...? If this true, did anyone else hear this? Not sure if I should believe that.. I always get my info from here. Its depressing no class since June.

Noice · Senior Member

My personal prediction has been that the September class will be 100+, you heard it here first.

making dcas great again · Senior Member

Whats makes you think there going to be a september class ?

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

We all sure as hell hope you're right, but I doubt it.

Noice · Senior Member

History. Last year was the same thing, nothing for the summer then September boom 80. Last year they didnt have anywhere near these vacancies. All this budget nonsense will have no affect on promotions, especially for Sgt. Its a drop in the bucket when you are talking about billions of dollars. The job needs bosses badly, and .00001% of the budget isnt going to stop that. Also, most cops make less money as a boss for the first few years anyway. I believe there will be September promotions and I believe it will be a big class. Just my opinion.

Truthseeker · Guru

Yes budget has nothing to do with promotions. I guess the fact that promos havent occurred since the budget was slashed. Nothing to do with budget. Crime rampant, precincts have less sergeants and lieutenants but apparently nothing to do with budget.

Noice · Senior Member

Why didnt they promote last summer? Was it because of the budget?

Truthseeker · Guru

When was last time we had -200 vacancies?? Trust me the promotion is part of the budget. Drop in the bucket is normally correct. But w everything being scrutinized, the old way of things isnt true right now. Lets see, I can tell you though this budget crisis is no way helping promos speed along

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

Is there any deadline we are waiting for? Has the headcount been finalized?

rookiebit_h · Guru

fiftyfouredp wrote:
Is there any deadline we are waiting for? Has the headcount been finalized?

I heard if a Sgt Bmoc was going in it would be Tuesday Sept 8 for graduation in Sept 25th

3rdtimetheCharm · Senior Member

rookiebit_h wrote:
fiftyfouredp wrote:
Is there any deadline we are waiting for? Has the headcount been finalized?
I heard if a Sgt Bmoc was going in it would be Tuesday Sept 8 for graduation in Sept 25th

Well then there wont be a sgt Bmoc. Tuesday is the 8th. The Finest wouldve came down Friday.

Noice · Senior Member

They could start the 14th and get promoted the 25th and finish out that last week as a sgt. They have done it before but the job can do whatever it wants. We shall see.

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

Where are you people getting your info from? Legit sources or someone who just likes getting your hopes up?

3rdtimetheCharm · Senior Member

BROOKLYN77 wrote:
Where are you people getting your info from? Legit sources or someone who just likes getting your hopes up?

Unnamed sources. Its all you need nowadays

Dahomeless1 · Senior Member

Who said there wasn't a class last summer?? There was a class last year. My friend was in the class, also did mentoring! This August 30th made 1 year as a sergeant. First detail as a sergeant for that group was the West Indian parade last year.

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

Does anyone have any legit information, or just hearsay?

Waiting too long · Veteran Member

I was told by a legit source last week that there wasnt going to be a September class which turned out to be true, and that there was a 50/50 shot at sgts and lts in October with most likely no discretionary promotions. He also said no new academy class for October and that the promotions have to go to city hall now for approval which wasnt done in the past.

Highwaytherapytocleansethesoul · Veteran Member

There is an Academy class Of 200 cadets starting in Oct they submitted budget request for LTs 9/25 promotions and Sgts in Oct. this is coming from good source at plalace. Dont kill the messenger not trying to be a troll.

Waiting too long · Veteran Member

The sba was told that there was going to be 150 new sgts, this was three weeks ago and he felt it was wierd because thats too much for one shot. Then I was told by someone else September was off and October was 50/50. Theyre saying that city hall has to approve everything now so it sounds like were just in waiting mode for the ok.

gmen18 · Senior Member

just rumors but hearing whispers of 40 LTs and 60 sgts for sept. i understand that its a bit late now for a bmoc notifications but maybe theyd still promote the 25th and go back to class a week or two. hopefully a sign of small but monthly classes and not 1 small class and standstill till 2021

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

if anyone gets an email that they are in the next class and when it will be, just let us know.

20Nout · Veteran Member

Anyone here this
BREAKING NEWS:

Chief Holmes to become Chief of Collaborative Policing (3 stars)

DI Michael King to Deputy Chief, Special Victims Division

PSB executive to head the School Safety Division (executive name not revealed). Meeting will be held tomorrow in regard.

Executive movement from PSB into IAB and IAB to Patrol, DB, HB, CTB and Intel bureaus

Discretionary promotions and Sgts/Lt promotions at end of month

Transfers - Slowly coming back. More transfers after completion of Sgt/Lt BMOC.

NCO program to be revamped due to personnel issues at commands (shortages). No other info given.

Overtime - No info given.

20Nout · Veteran Member

Is this true about promos? I hope they start moving this list already..

bluefinest29 · Veteran Member

I just heard some more bad news from a source in the puzzle palace Dept did attempt to have promotions in September and they were denied.

Truthseeker · Guru

FYI according to my best source, there is no talk of promos in personnel.

RS2323 · Senior Member

Don't count on any promos till next year unfortunately

TransitCop · Senior Member

Aint this just fantastic.

DT-Tres · Senior Member

RS2323 wrote:
Don't count on any promos till next year unfortunately

You mean not to count on any promotions for the lower ranks. Top executives continue to get theirs. SMH

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

And where is this info coming from? A lot of hearsay going on here.

rookiebit_h · Guru

DT-Tres wrote:
RS2323 wrote:
Don't count on any promos till next year unfortunately
You mean not to count on any promotions for the lower ranks. Top executives continue to get theirs. SMH

Dude... MAJOR executive movement!

Waiting too long · Veteran Member

Whens it coming down?

Conditionsuck · Veteran Member

Already did.....finest came down. Bunch of transfers

Conditionsuck · Veteran Member

Kemper to DB
Kenny to BNDB
Hernandez 47 to DBBX
Sautner DB to DBQS
Abbassi 120 to Collaborative
Savino Central Rob to GSVD
Timoney MTS to PBBX as XO
Gilbert 105 to SSD
Gurley 43 to HB
Henry 107 to DBBN
Nunez 114 to 47
Shine 109 to TBBX/QNS
Soto 30 to PBMN
Mullaney TD20 to 107
Omalley 76 to MTS
Coleman 10 to TB
Kinsella PSA1 to 120
Perry 104 to CAB
Fiore DBBN to Central Rob
Wynne 17 to Hwy XO
Ramsey PSA8 to 43
Marchese 30 to TD11
Gault PBMS TSU to 10
Fabara PBQS SU to 100
Longobardi 62 to PBBS
Hall 100 to 104
Korabel Firearm Sup to 30
Ewards 7 to 17 CO
Chen 71 to 62 CO
Jenkins DB GSQS to 114
Pinkhasov TD11 to 105
Zelikov 70 to 76 CO
Oconnell 9 to 109
Rogers PSA2 to PSA1 CO
Clement MTN to 9 CO
Deleo PSA9 to PSA8 CO
Orlando TD34 to TD20
Cheung TBBK TF to TD34 CO

TenFour16 · Guru

As per Lt. forums there are a wopping 255 Sgt. vacancies with 77 on terminal. On top of 188 vacancies/terminal leave combined for the rank of Lt.

But it doesnt appear there will be any Sgt. or Lt. BMOCs. This is insane ....

Can we see classes of 100+ in 2021 then ?

These numbers are only going to grow as I believe this October a big group of 20, and 25 year cops can retire.

yougonow · Guru

So essentially if LTs promote their lost headcount of 148 retired and 40 on term (which I believe is way higher as per Chief of Detectives), plus the fill the 255 Sgts with 77 on term, that essentially gives an approx 520 combined opening for Sgt rank alone.

Question is... is this the authorized headcount which can be filled? I believe these numbers are off by a 100+ or so personally between ranks.

brooklynbacon · Guru

RS2323 wrote:
Don't count on any promos till next year unfortunately

Suffolk just cancelled two classes and froze promotions to save money. This state and especially city is in horrendous shape right now.

Brooklyn50 · Member

This job sucks