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BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

RUMORMILL

rookiebit_h · Guru

no promos of any rank until Jan 2021

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

Dont think well know anything until after the budget goes through.

Dahomeless1 · Senior Member

Heard promotions will be back after the summer. Late fall.

gmen18 · Senior Member

hearing all hands on deck for summer, ones summer clears stuff will pick up from executive level down to sgt

Dahomeless1 · Senior Member

www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-police-commissioner-names-new-head-of-community-affairs-bureau-20200624-rb7qfccrpzfsjluhncpubuwu7y-story.html

rookiebit_h · Guru

hes gonna clean house Cant wait to see his staff

Dahomeless1 · Senior Member

rookiebit_h wrote:
hes gonna clean house Cant wait to see his staff

Yep! There a lot of movement. A lot!! Let's see how this pans out.

Sgtnogood · Veteran Member

He's not cleaning house. He's just putting minorities in positions to build back trust

-- Edited by Sgtnogood on Wednesday 24th of June 2020 08:51:02 PM

rookiebit_h · Guru

Sgtnogood wrote:
He's not cleaning house. He's just putting minorities in positions to build back trust

-- Edited by Sgtnogood on Wednesday 24th of June 2020 08:51:02 PM

Madri is gonna clean house and bring his peeps in

Dahomeless1 · Senior Member

rookiebit_h wrote:
Sgtnogood wrote:
He's not cleaning house. He's just putting minorities in positions to build back trust

-- Edited by Sgtnogood on Wednesday 24th of June 2020 08:51:02 PM
Madri is gonna clean house and bring his peeps in

He is! I know a Sgt going with maddrey to 1 pp. He's going to shuffle some things around.

Quickdraw · Member

I am sure Maddrey will take his mouthpiece that useless schmuck of a defective with him to CAB. Every gun collar he made was DPed because dumb**** knew he violated all the rule in the book and didnt to know how to articulate his ****
Btw, when and if, Maddreys personal record becomes available, will it cause uproar among BLM and their white allies ? Rhetorical question
P.S nothing against him, he is a great boss. The last of the Mohicans...

rookiebit_h · Guru

Quickdraw wrote:
I am sure Maddrey will take his mouthpiece that useless schmuck of a defective with him to CAB. Every gun collar he made was DPed because dumb**** knew he violated all the rule in the book and didnt to know how to articulate his ****
Btw, when and if, Maddreys personal record becomes available, will it cause uproar among BLM and their white allies ? Rhetorical question
P.S nothing against him, he is a great boss. The last of the Mohicans...

Hell get grade too

gmen18 · Senior Member

nypost.com/2020/06/24/911-response-times-could-increase-if-nypd-headcount-is-cut-sources/

this concerns me

yougonow · Guru

I dont think we will have a severe drop in headcount. Dont see it actually happening, but nothing shocks me anymore.

Tunit · Senior Member

Candidate Assessment Division did a live Q&A on Instagram today (@nypdrecruit), in which they stated that the academy is still a go, tentatively starting July 1.

bignutz88 · Senior Member

rookiebit_h wrote:
Sgtnogood wrote:
He's not cleaning house. He's just putting minorities in positions to build back trust

-- Edited by Sgtnogood on Wednesday 24th of June 2020 08:51:02 PM
Madri is gonna clean house and bring his peeps in

Isn't that what all Chiefs do??

whysosalty · Veteran Member

Not hearing good news. No classes for a while, possibly until next year. I dont see the list going past 1700. if youre below that number time to hit the books again.

rookiebit_h · Guru

whysosalty wrote:
Not hearing good news. No classes for a while, possibly until next year. I dont see the list going past 1700. if youre below that number time to hit the books again.

all ranks?

IceCream7x · Newbie

whysosalty wrote:
Not hearing good news. No classes for a while, possibly until next year. I dont see the list going past 1700. if youre below that number time to hit the books again.

a great source of mine confirmed this. The new budget is apparently going to be bad.

brooklynbacon · Guru

Mayors own words were very substantial cut to the budget.

rookiebit_h · Guru

30 retirees today

yougonow · Guru

Sgts?

rookiebit_h · Guru

sgt vacancies will hit 200 by fall

yougonow · Guru

We are undoubtedly already at ~200 vacancies with almost 100 LT vacancies with terminals. We will for sure hit 250ish vacancies for Sgt soon enough. That's not counting LT vacancies which are approx 100 by end of summer with the terminals up. This also does not factor in between retirements as well. The only issue is the 9% reduction in numbers, which may alienate some of those vacancies, but not by much.

TransitCop · Senior Member

Why would anyone eligible for retirement remain? Are they waiting to get sued or arrested with this new policy?

Truthseeker · Guru

Pension is protected. Sued? Who cares

yougonow · Guru

Pension protected? I think you forgot if you get convicted of a felony your pension is forfeited.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

On that topic, can your pension still be forfeited if you get convicted of a felony AFTER retirement?

3rdtimetheCharm · Senior Member

yougonow wrote:
Pension protected? I think you forgot if you get convicted of a felony your pension is forfeited.

IIRC if youre convicted of a felony after 20 years on your pension goes back to the 20 year. Anything earned after is forfeited

brooklynbacon · Guru

fiftyfouredp wrote:
On that topic, can your pension still be forfeited if you get convicted of a felony AFTER retirement?

Nope.

yougonow · Guru

34 Sgts retired this week

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

Is that above average?

rookiebit_h · Guru

fiftyfouredp wrote:
Is that above average?

I think 9-10 retired yesterday alone.. thats insane

thejimmy · Member

https://nypost.com/2020/06/27/272-nypd-cops-file-for-retirement-since-floyd-protests/

What is the recorded for most retirements in a month?

-- Edited by thejimmy on Saturday 27th of June 2020 07:12:44 PM

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

With the amount of sergeants leaving, they will need to be replaced, and at this rate, they're gonna have to resume BMOC at some point this year despite what some people are saying.

rookiebit_h · Guru

BROOKLYN77 wrote:
With the amount of sergeants leaving, they will need to be replaced, and at this rate, they're gonna have to resume BMOC at some point this year despite what some people are saying.

lmao its inevitable.. They werent expecting this much

gmen18 · Senior Member

there must be a ton of supervisors leaving but if a similar amount of POs are leaving will they look to still fill the vacancies? thats what concerns me

rookiebit_h · Guru

gmen18 wrote:
there must be a ton of supervisors leaving but if a similar amount of POs are leaving will they look to still fill the vacancies? thats what concerns me

i think theres gotta be a certain number of Lts period, sgts go by amount of POs I think...

-- Edited by rookiebit_h on Saturday 27th of June 2020 09:58:45 PM

gmen18 · Senior Member

i could very well be wrong but the formula ive always gone by is for every 8 cops 1 sgt, for every 3 sgts 1 Lt

rookiebit_h · Guru

gmen18 wrote:
i could very well be wrong but the formula ive always gone by is for every 8 cops 1 sgt, for every 3 sgts 1 Lt

Are you referring to a detail roster?

gmen18 · Senior Member

rookiebit_h wrote:
gmen18 wrote:
i could very well be wrong but the formula ive always gone by is for every 8 cops 1 sgt, for every 3 sgts 1 Lt
Are you referring to a detail roster?

yes and no, that formula applies to the size of the dept as well. i believe right now there are 6 cops/det for every sgt. and 2.6 sgts for every Lt. if my math is correct

-- Edited by gmen18 on Saturday 27th of June 2020 11:24:48 PM

brooklynbacon · Guru

BROOKLYN77 wrote:
With the amount of sergeants leaving, they will need to be replaced, and at this rate, they're gonna have to resume BMOC at some point this year despite what some people are saying.

Dont forget police officers are leaving too. Less pos = dont need as many sgts.

-- Edited by brooklynbacon on Saturday 27th of June 2020 11:35:39 PM

rookiebit_h · Guru

so all these retirements are hurting us youre saying?

yougonow · Guru

gmen18 wrote:
rookiebit_h wrote:
gmen18 wrote:
i could very well be wrong but the formula ive always gone by is for every 8 cops 1 sgt, for every 3 sgts 1 Lt
Are you referring to a detail roster?
yes and no, that formula applies to the size of the dept as well. i believe right now there are 6 cops/det for every sgt. and 2.6 sgts for every Lt. if my math is correct

-- Edited by gmen18 on Saturday 27th of June 2020 11:24:48 PM

Dets are on a complete different ratio.

Anyway the July academy is still.allegedly good to go from what I heard yesterday. We shall see.

rookiebit_h · Guru

lets get back on the topic Rumormill

yougonow · Guru

rookiebit_h wrote:
lets get back on the topic Rumormill

We are on track. Class going in will replace majority of retirements for last quarter plus.

rookiebit_h · Guru

yougonow wrote:
rookiebit_h wrote:
lets get back on the topic Rumormill
We are on track. Class going in will replace majority of retirements for last quarter plus.

great to hear.. We need them to change their minds about not promoting until Fall 2020 or early 2021

gmen18 · Senior Member

yougonow wrote:
rookiebit_h wrote:
lets get back on the topic Rumormill
We are on track. Class going in will replace majority of retirements for last quarter plus.

i heard the class is still up in the air pending budget... have you heard otherwise?

rookiebit_h · Guru

Ed Mullins, president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association, said an exodus from the NYPD has begun. He said nearly 80 of his members have recently filed for retirement, and that morale is at the lowest levels Ive seen in 38 years.