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gmen18 · Senior Member

Sgt Vacancies

rookiebit_h · Guru

~85 vacancies after adjustments

yougonow · Guru

Where did you get this info.

yougonow · Guru

BROOKLYN77 wrote:
Those numbers, is that just sergeant's retiring?

Yes, since we've been taking mass retiring stats.

TenFour16 · Guru

85 vacancies but how many terminal ?

rookiebit_h · Guru

5 papers went in today 7/27

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

Since June 1 889 UMOS have dropped papers including 168 sgts.

rookiebit_h · Guru

Bklynsouth3020 wrote:
Since June 1 889 UMOS have dropped papers including 168 sgts.

now thats some info thank u!

Truthseeker · Guru

Seems info pointing to sept for Sgts promotions. Still not concrete tho. Just adds to further rumors of sept being true. Sorry its not concrete w numbers

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

According to a sergeant I know, a SGT he works with was informed to be ready for LT in September. I hope that translate to SGT as well, we shall see.

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

Since June 1, 1049 umos have dropped papers in one way or another. Including 202 sgts and 128 LTs

rookiebit_h · Guru

Bklynsouth3020 wrote:
Since June 1, 1049 umos have dropped papers in one way or another. Including 202 sgts and 128 LTs

thank you for keeping track

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

Bklynsouth3020 wrote:
Since June 1, 1049 umos have dropped papers in one way or another. Including 202 sgts and 128 LTs

how does this compare to normal June-August retirements?

rookiebit_h · Guru

Numbers are in.. Sgt's 275 vac / 115 term

TransitCop · Senior Member

Flood gates are open.

Dahomeless1 · Senior Member

Those numbers are great. And they will continue to grow people are still submitting papers.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

Even with a headcount reduction, purging all the old blood is great for us regardless.

3rdtimetheCharm · Senior Member

Theres prob still a ton of guys who are retiring, but just havent filled yet Bc they are burning their time.

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

Now we just have to see how many they put in the next BMOC which is rumored to be in September. An academy class is also rumored for October now.

motifer · Veteran Member

Direct from the NYC Mayors Office of Management and Budget. On their website theres a PDF titled Citywide Savings Program which details the cuts for every city agency. According to that office direct, weve already hit the reduction numbers. Police Department has reduced by 1404(1171 uniformed and 233 civilian). Point being, it doesnt seem that there will be reductions throughout the ranks affecting vacancies.

Dahomeless1 · Senior Member

Anything new on the vacancies???

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

Any updates on the new numbers after all these fresh retirements?

Truthseeker · Guru

I often dont go into long term stuff Bc every week things can change. In fact Im posting this Bc Im very confident of where the info is coming from. I believe dept headcount is around 33,500. Apparently there is no known target number at this point atleast from what I can obtain at this point. Heard 32k previously. Vacancies numbers mean nothing. Its useless info at this point. Im told ZERO promotions and ZERO hiring will be occurring till July 2021 at a minimum. I will advise you this is not locker room chatter and comes from a place outside dept w knowledge of budget constraints. I hope this proves to be very wrong but Id figure some would rather know of the extreme possibilities in case they want to plan a different strategy for their career

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

Truthseeker wrote:
I often dont go into long term stuff Bc every week things can change. In fact Im posting this Bc Im very confident of where the info is coming from. I believe dept headcount is around 33,500. Apparently there is no known target number at this point atleast from what I can obtain at this point. Heard 32k previously. Vacancies numbers mean nothing. Its useless info at this point. Im told ZERO promotions and ZERO hiring will be occurring till July 2021 at a minimum. I will advise you this is not locker room chatter and comes from a place outside dept w knowledge of budget constraints. I hope this proves to be very wrong but Id figure some would rather know of the extreme possibilities in case they want to plan a different strategy for their career

I dont doubt it. The city is praying for a bailout, hopefully, if we get one, well be fixed. Also hearing that an ERI (buyout) is a real possibility now.

Fewmoretogo · Member

What are your hearing? Cause everything I heard was saying it doesnt apply to uniformed mos

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

Fewmoretogo wrote:
What are your hearing? Cause everything I heard was saying it doesnt apply to uniformed mos

Im hearing its on the table. It would be similar to a military buyback except you cant just stick around after you accept it (ie stay till you have 22 on and retire as if you did 25) You would have to leave at the agreed upon time.

Truthseeker · Guru

Things changed dramatically today after meeting w mayor. The right incident w the right conditions can bring big changes. Slight sliver of hope.
thechiefleader.com/news/news_of_the_week/nypds-october-police-class-cancelled-third-one-scrapped-this-year/article_42706bb4-08d3-11eb-9a7f-2f0aafd1b532.html

gmen18 · Senior Member

Truthseeker wrote:
Things changed dramatically today after meeting w mayor. The right incident w the right conditions can bring big changes. Slight sliver of hope.
thechiefleader.com/news/news_of_the_week/nypds-october-police-class-cancelled-third-one-scrapped-this-year/article_42706bb4-08d3-11eb-9a7f-2f0aafd1b532.html

thanks for the info truthseeker, was the meeting in regards to headcount or promotions specifically? the article seems like some are cautiously optimistic about an academy class for october

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

So, theoretically, if this class does go in, are we looking at a big bmoc, smaller bmoc?

brooklynbacon · Guru

-- Edited by brooklynbacon on Friday 9th of October 2020 03:34:08 PM

Truthseeker · Guru

Its not a done deal. Just a small hope. More cops more need for promo. Even w a class doesnt mean promotions. But just increases odds of it.

20Nout · Veteran Member

Does anyone know if there is anyone that has resigned or retired off our list? So names can be crossed out.

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Copper · Senior Member

Sgt's 372 vac / 55 term before the promotion.

-- Edited by Copper on Friday 9th of July 2021 04:45:20 PM

yougonow · Guru

Holy smokes!

TransitCop · Senior Member

So basically we have 550 vacancies with 40 going to LT this class doesnt even make a dent in this.

TenFour16 · Guru

I think its been solidified that vacancy numbers dont mean anything anymore. If it did, theyd try to fill it asap. Department will just do more with less.

Shotsfired · Guru

The City council doesnt care about vacancies. They would rather us be defunded then actually filling spots. Vacancies dont mean anything anymore.

Noice · Senior Member

Yeah those vacancies are based off of 35000+ cops, they want to reduce it, so vacancies dont mean anything. They will just keep telling us to do more with less.

Copper · Senior Member

Vacancies are not based on 35k cops. These Vacancies are current after reducing city council proposed decrease in headcount. Plus, the department requesting to promote every month but they are not getting approved. We might see summer promotions if the department will get approval.

Copper · Senior Member

Sgt's 371 vac / 71 term

Futureauxiliary · Guru

Copper, would you happen to know if this is based on the NEW headcount or old ?

Copper · Senior Member

Futureauxiliary wrote:
Copper, would you happen to know if this is based on the NEW headcount or old ?

It is based on new headcount.

Copper · Senior Member

Sgt's 418 vac / 32 term

Futureauxiliary · Guru

Any new vacancy numbers ?

UndertakersFinest_ · Veteran Member

Any updates regarding vacancies?

Shalion · Member

Whats the new number on vacancies

Futureauxiliary · Guru

Shalion wrote:
Whats the new number on vacancies

Should be in the low 300s

Futureauxiliary · Guru

Posted by Rookiescum on the Capts thread.

DI

23 vacancy with 13 terminal

Captain

-1 Vacancy (6 leave without pay) with 23 Terminal

Lieutenant

49 vacancy

Sergeant

292 vacancy

TheBlackCloud · Senior Member

I believe Thursday will provide further information as it is rumored to be when Sgts will receive information regarding there potential retro amount. If thats true it will likely provide a timeframe of when the money will arrive and I personally feel thats when a line will form at the Emergency exit doors.