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Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

Sgt Vacancies

IamTheLaw · Senior Member

I told you guys months ago that the class sizes were gonna expand. You're welcome.

rookiebit_h · Guru

someone needs to update the list!

63ASAP · Guru

As of July 2, there are 186 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 83 on terminal leave.

Allmostthere · Veteran Member

How is this department operations with so few sgt???? How many cops to a sgt in a typical patrol 4x12 squad??

TransitCop · Senior Member

Those are good healthy numbers hopefully we get to a thousand by end of year two

yougonow · Guru

yeah 1k would be optimal, but im guessing the geniuses spinning the wheels at 1pp will give an odd ball class next bmoc of 51 entries, or 53. I just don't understand their system. I don't think I ever will.

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

This class graduating will put them around 700. Minimum of 2 more classes at 50 a piece get you to 800. But with the vacancies, bigger classes will get you to 850ish

yougonow · Guru

Which is why guys are rooting for two 75-80 numbered classes to push the envelope to 950ish

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

You would need 2 classes of 125 to get near 950. 2 classes of 75-80 get you to 850

yougonow · Guru

Yes 850ish, I fat fingered it. Sorry.

Sensei255 · Veteran Member

Any update on Sgt vacancies? I know we had 167 ppl retire yesterday

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

I dont know if youll ever get another credible update on vacancies. 63ASAP said when he got promoted to LT he wouldnt have access to the numbers again. Since he got promoted he posted once.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

if theres 8 cops for every sgt, I think its reasonable to assume about 20 sgts retired lol

yougonow · Guru

Im hearing almost 70 were Sgts. Not confirmed.

monkeybones · Senior Member

8/2

V= 255
T= 57

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

Highest vacancy count yet for this list. V + T = 312

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

Thats a lot of vacancies...

3rdtimetheCharm · Senior Member

fiftyfouredp wrote:
if theres 8 cops for every sgt, I think its reasonable to assume about 20 sgts retired lol

Wow

gmen18 · Senior Member

is that really true? thatd mean there are about 250 more vacancies than the avg month

monkeybones · Senior Member

gmen18 wrote:
is that really true? thatd mean there are about 250 more vacancies than the avg month

Quite ungrateful arent we? How about a thank you? However, to answer your question yes it is accurate and does not include guys in bmoc nor mentoring. BMOC promotion is at the end and mentoring doesnt count.

TransitCop · Senior Member

People finally wising up and leaving. I know Im leaving the moment I can

cop · Senior Member

monkeybones wrote:
8/2

V= 255
T= 57

Thank You please dont let others get to you as some like me really appreciate seeing these numbers. Especially those with higher list numbers.

Sgtnogood · Veteran Member

Why would any idiot stay on this job or wanna come on sgt rank sucks now bc everything falls on you. All you cowboys and collar tools take a lesson from pantaleao. Why do anything just get your ass whipped get a lod bc the job doesn't give a **** or will back you

PD2FD · Guru

Sgtnogood wrote:
Why would any idiot stay on this job or wanna come on sgt rank sucks now bc everything falls on you. All you cowboys and collar tools take a lesson from pantaleao. Why do anything just get your ass whipped get a lod bc the job doesn't give a **** or will back you

The only people staying on this job are in good gigs. Anyone on patrol with 20+ years on will be a complete EDP to not retire, regardless of whether you're a cop/sgt/lt. This job doesn't back anyone anymore unless you're uncle or dad is a Chief, example: Chief Essigs son.

TransitCop · Senior Member

Most people dont prepare for retirement. Complete your education, get a license in another field and build you skill set for the private sector at least 5 years before your retirement so you dont have to be stuck here against your will. Another important item is to live below your means saving for you future. This job will chew you out and spit you out at the least expected time just for doing what you are supposed to. Get out an enjoy you retirement when you still can.

63ASAP · Guru

As of August 16, there are 258 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 62 on terminal leave.

Sensei255 · Veteran Member

Thanks 63 asap

3rdtimetheCharm · Senior Member

Is it me or does 320 not seem a lot

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

3rdtimetheCharm wrote:
Is it me or does 320 not seem a lot

It seems low because weve been spoiled by the absurd amount of vacancies we got to. When it slows down its weird

Elbatigol9 · Senior Member

1000k by the end of the year its possible or not?

-- Edited by Elbatigol9 on Friday 23rd of August 2019 12:50:35 PM

gmen18 · Senior Member

Its possible but my guess is around 900 to end the year

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

gmen18 wrote:
Its possible but my guess is around 900 to end the year

100% agree. should be 900-950 but closer to 900

yougonow · Guru

You guys are not including the 60 something actual LT vacancies with another 30 something terminals, making it essentially almost 90 probable vacancies to LT. If they drop a 50pc class that's another legit 50 right off the bat. Lts are short, they wont keep those vacancies stagnant.

Reality with LT vacancies combined is roughly 400-420 openings for Sgt movement.

The lack of LT promotions is the problem at the moment.

-- Edited by yougonow on Friday 23rd of August 2019 03:02:11 PM

-- Edited by yougonow on Friday 23rd of August 2019 03:04:03 PM

Elbatigol9 · Senior Member

Emails for mentoring just went out

yougonow · Guru

How many guys?

63ASAP · Guru

As of September 3, there are 235 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 34 on terminal leave.

yougonow · Guru

roughly 330 TOTAL vacancies (including terminals) between SGT and LT's, if the LTs list throws in 50, plus residuals for beginning of year. Minus 80 going in, we should be good for a 3 piece 80 class before nose diving numbers and slowing a little bit.

Sensei255 · Veteran Member

Anyone have a vacany update ? I know 54 sgts retired

Rodrigo54 · Member

-- Edited by Rodrigo54 on Wednesday 2nd of October 2019 10:04:52 PM

-- Edited by Rodrigo54 on Wednesday 2nd of October 2019 10:07:12 PM

63ASAP · Guru

As of October 2, there are 243 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 40 on terminal leave. This does not include yesterday's promotions. Not sure what that number was.

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

That number is only going to grow in Feb when that 20 year class is able to retire.

yougonow · Guru

Every 6 months a 20 whatever year class is ready to retire. February and July are the best months for numbers.

3rdtimetheCharm · Senior Member

yougonow wrote:
Every 6 months a 20 whatever year class is ready to retire. February and July are the best months for numbers.

Yes but these are the anniversaries of the Pre 9/11 classes that were 3K plus. They had 3 squads of recruits per academy class. I heard stories of 4-6 people sharing a gym locker

-- Edited by 3rdtimetheCharm on Tuesday 8th of October 2019 11:50:08 PM

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

I was in the 2002 class, we started out with 2,600, day tour and 4x12. We have a lot of big classes who can retire coming up.

63ASAP · Guru

As of October 16, there are 161 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 45 on terminal leave.

cop · Senior Member

Any updates on vacancy the current lt mentoring and sgt mentoring appears to be similar in numbers.

63ASAP · Guru

As of November 18, there are 92 sergeant vacancies (which includes allotment for SSA/SDS), and an additional 50 on terminal leave.

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

The next retirement group is in Feb, those numbers are sure to grow.

cop · Senior Member

Any update for year end numbers ? Current Bmoc out the 20 and no class in mentoring.