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RS2323 · Senior Member

RE: LT Vacancy

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

Can we get an update 63ASAP!!! Thanks in advance

63ASAP · Guru

As of September 4, there are 73 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 15 on terminal leave. Good news for us, and in line with the "rumors" of them promoting another 90 by years end.

Missing the Bx · Veteran Member

Anyone know what list number they cleared up to?

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

63ASAP wrote:

As of September 4, there are 73 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 15 on terminal leave. Good news for us, and in line with the "rumors" of them promoting another 90 by years end.

Is the 90 rumor by end of the year confirmed, or will there be 2 classes of 55/50 since there will be 88 vacancies by the end of thenyear according to terminal/vacancies #, and supposed 10-12 captains going in October?

brooklynbacon · Guru

63ASAP wrote:
As of September 4, there are 73 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 15 on terminal leave. Good news for us, and in line with the "rumors" of them promoting another 90 by years end.

Saaaaweeeet!

Thanks for the info.

63ASAP · Guru

SRGrook033 wrote:
63ASAP wrote:

As of September 4, there are 73 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 15 on terminal leave. Good news for us, and in line with the "rumors" of them promoting another 90 by years end.

Is the 90 rumor by end of the year confirmed, or will there be 2 classes of 55/50 since there will be 88 vacancies by the end of thenyear according to terminal/vacancies #, and supposed 10-12 captains going in October?

Can't speak to promotions. That's outside of my wheel house. Sorry.

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

@62ASAP... can we get a middle of the month update? If its available

63ASAP · Guru

As of September 17, there are 73 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 19 on terminal leave.

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

63ASAP wrote:

As of September 17, there are 73 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 19 on terminal leave.

Thank you... 4 extra on terminal in 2 weeks sounds good

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

SRGrook033 wrote:
63ASAP wrote:

As of September 17, there are 73 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 19 on terminal leave.

Thank you... 4 extra on terminal in 2 weeks sounds good

Pretty much guarantees the list goes over 200 before years end.

RS2323 · Senior Member

RBJ5154 wrote:
SRGrook033 wrote:
63ASAP wrote:

As of September 17, there are 73 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 19 on terminal leave.

Thank you... 4 extra on terminal in 2 weeks sounds good
Pretty much guarantees the list goes over 200 before years end.

What # do we think they'll promote to for the December class?

neverAgain · Senior Member

dont have a definite number yet but hearing between 40 to 50 but do expect a slow down until the end of the contract in may

massive retirements should be in play

RS2323 · Senior Member

neverAgain wrote:
dont have a definite number yet but hearing between 40 to 50 but do expect a slow down until the end of the contract in may
massive retirements should be in play

Thank you never again ,you've been spot on.

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

neverAgain wrote:

dont have a definite number yet but hearing between 40 to 50 but do expect a slow down until the end of the contract in may
massive retirements should be in play

When is the next mentoring scheduled to start and is the promotion following said mentoring set for Nov 20 or Dec 21?

63ASAP · Guru

As of October 2, there are 35 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 12 on terminal leave.

Khalidviet · Veteran Member

63ASAP wrote:
As of October 2, there are 35 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 12 on terminal leave.

Thanks for the info brother.

3yrWonder · Senior Member

Middle of the month update? Thanks 63ASSP

redcons2 · Senior Member

Why do we middle of the month updates?

3yrWonder · Senior Member

redcons2 wrote:
Why do we middle of the month updates?

because monthly updates take too long biggrin

-- Edited by 3yrWonder on Friday 19th of October 2018 01:51:13 PM

63ASAP · Guru

As of October 16, there are 37 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 18 on terminal leave.

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

63ASAP wrote:

As of October 16, there are 37 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 18 on terminal leave.

Thank u for great update.....
Does it show you when the 18on the terminal are expected to retire?

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

63ASAP wrote:
As of October 16, there are 37 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 18 on terminal leave.

Thanks for the update. Hopefully the rumor of 20 captains next month happens to even further the vacancies.

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

RBJ5154 wrote:

63ASAP wrote:
As of October 16, there are 37 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 18 on terminal leave.
Thanks for the update. Hopefully the rumor of 20 captains next month happens to even further the vacancies.

we're over by 8 with 11 on terminal, i hope the rumor is true...but looking at vacancies it is slim 20 is the number...

63ASAP · Guru

As of November 2, there are 43 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 18 on terminal leave. Things are looking good! Steady amount of new vacancies with each passing month.

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

63ASAP wrote:
As of November 2, there are 43 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 18 on terminal leave. Things are looking good! Steady amount of new vacancies with each passing month.

Thanks again for the updates.

Shotsfired · Guru

Once the contract is up next year, are we expecting more retirements ?

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

Shotsfired wrote:
Once the contract is up next year, are we expecting more retirements ?

Someone had posted a few months ago to expect massive vacancies in May when the contract is up.

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

63ASAP wrote:

As of November 2, there are 43 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 18 on terminal leave. Things are looking good! Steady amount of new vacancies with each passing month.

Thanks for great news.... do you know if there is going to b more than 50vacancies by the scheduled promotion on the 21st?

Shotsfired · Guru

Thanks RBJ5154 wrote:
Shotsfired wrote:
Once the contract is up next year, are we expecting more retirements ?
Someone had posted a few months ago to expect massive vacancies in May when the contract is up.

Thanks for the posts.

63ASAP · Guru

As of November 16, there are 45 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 22 on terminal leave. Remember, this does not include today's promotions.

brooklynbacon · Guru

63ASAP wrote:
As of November 16, there are 45 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 22 on terminal leave. Remember, this does not include today's promotions.

So vacancies should be at 0 now.

soccerpsyco32 · Senior Member

Vacancies are actually at +6 now. Dont count on December promotions. Realistically plan for the end of January or early February.

PD2FD · Guru

soccerpsyco32 wrote:
Vacancies are actually at +6 now. Dont count on December promotions. Realistically plan for the end of January or early February.

I can see promotions slowing down quite a bit now. My guess is the next class will be in 3 months (it's just a guess btw).

3yrWonder · Senior Member

PD2FD wrote:
soccerpsyco32 wrote:
Vacancies are actually at +6 now. Dont count on December promotions. Realistically plan for the end of January or early February.
I can see promotions slowing down quite a bit now. My guess is the next class will be in 3 months (it's just a guess btw).

A captains class would obviously help with vacancies. Hope for a big upcoming class plus those on terminal and youre right back at a class of 30-40+

3yrWonder · Senior Member

63ASAP, curious of the numbers since the last promotion pretty much brought us up to little to no vacancies. December update would be great, thanks in advance.

JimmyOneShoe · Member

I don't know if this fits under this topic, but the Chief of Department was asked in the LT class if a new position would be created for NCO LT and he said no pretty quickly because they want to continue to have the NCOs working closely with the XO. He also said he knows some commands give some responsibilities to the SOL, but it is not designed for that. Also, I don't know specifics but one of the instructors also said LTs and Capts can't just be increased at a whim. Those rank totals have to be negotiated unlike Sgts which can be increased based on force numbers of police officers. I am not sure if he meant contractually or what.

I figured I would mention it here since I have read a lot of people talking about it.

brooklynbacon · Guru

Well hopefully the stock market doesnt continue its disastrous dive. If it does there will be zero vacancies as no one is going to retire lol.

MakeMattersWorse · Veteran Member

ditto, my deferred comp got crushed

Caballo Loco · Senior Member

I have no idea why people tie the stock market to retirements. If you are ready to retire a few days of negative trading will have little to no real effect on your pension and most guys will probably leave their deferred comp in some type of investment anyway.

63ASAP · Guru

As of December 3, there is 1 lieutenant vacancy (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 18 on terminal leave. Obviously, this was expected, but it's still better than I thought...

brooklynbacon · Guru

63ASAP wrote:
As of December 3, there is 1 lieutenant vacancy (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 18 on terminal leave. Obviously, this was expected, but it's still better than I thought...

Booooo! /throws tomatos at 63asap

63ASAP · Guru

brooklynbacon wrote:
63ASAP wrote:
As of December 3, there is 1 lieutenant vacancy (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 18 on terminal leave. Obviously, this was expected, but it's still better than I thought...
Booooo! /throws tomatos at 63asap

lol. Yeah, tell me about it.

63ASAP · Guru

As of December 17, there is 1 lieutenant vacancy (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 21 on terminal leave. We've gained +3 on terminal in two weeks...better than nothing.

-- Edited by 63ASAP on Tuesday 18th of December 2018 01:30:17 PM

Jibberjab · Senior Member

Looks like reality is starting to set in with class sizes/frequency

63ASAP · Guru

Jibberjab wrote:
Looks like reality is starting to set in with class sizes/frequency

Yep, I've said for some time that once we catch up with the vacancies, it'll revert to the usual 180-200 yearly average. That first year was an anomaly to fill the void after the 2015 debacle. Going forward, we'll be seeing the usual numbers.

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

63ASAP wrote:
Jibberjab wrote:
Looks like reality is starting to set in with class sizes/frequency
Yep, I've said for some time that once we catch up with the vacancies, it'll revert to the usual 180-200 yearly average. That first year was an anomaly to fill the void after the 2015 debacle. Going forward, we'll be seeing the usual numbers.

What about the Capt's list? Any predictions because that list affects everyone else...

-- Edited by 25isthenew20 on Friday 21st of December 2018 02:36:42 AM

brooklynbacon · Guru

25isthenew20 wrote:
63ASAP wrote:
Jibberjab wrote:
Looks like reality is starting to set in with class sizes/frequency
Yep, I've said for some time that once we catch up with the vacancies, it'll revert to the usual 180-200 yearly average. That first year was an anomaly to fill the void after the 2015 debacle. Going forward, we'll be seeing the usual numbers.
What about the Capt's list?Any predictions there because that list affects everyone else...

Its slowed down too. I believe the next capts class is 10?

63ASAP · Guru

25isthenew20 wrote:
63ASAP wrote:
Jibberjab wrote:
Looks like reality is starting to set in with class sizes/frequency
Yep, I've said for some time that once we catch up with the vacancies, it'll revert to the usual 180-200 yearly average. That first year was an anomaly to fill the void after the 2015 debacle. Going forward, we'll be seeing the usual numbers.
What about the Capt's list?Any predictions there because that list affects everyone else...

I don't see a reason why we'd deviate from historical averages (for every rank). I'm not sure if someone tallied them up in your thread, but whatever that number is, I suspect that will continue.

25isthenew20 · Senior Member

63ASAP wrote:
25isthenew20 wrote:
63ASAP wrote:
Jibberjab wrote:
Looks like reality is starting to set in with class sizes/frequency
Yep, I've said for some time that once we catch up with the vacancies, it'll revert to the usual 180-200 yearly average. That first year was an anomaly to fill the void after the 2015 debacle. Going forward, we'll be seeing the usual numbers.
What about the Capt's list?Any predictions there because that list affects everyone else...
I don't see a reason why we'd deviate from historical averages (for every rank). I'm not sure if someone tallied them up in your thread, but whatever that number is, I suspect that will continue.

Can you post the historical average for each rank??