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TransitJoe · Senior Member

LT Vacancy

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

TransitJoe wrote:
How many Passovers left on the 2015 list?

I think someone mentioned 17. The fact they still never got promoted leads me to believe theyre all long term jam ups that probably will never get promoted.

Dresch58 · Senior Member

Dont say that they wil go in when the first Lt Bmoc does from the new list.

-- Edited by Dresch58 on Thursday 29th of March 2018 08:02:08 PM

DRPapi1983 · Guru

RBJ5154 wrote:
TransitJoe wrote:
How many Passovers left on the 2015 list?
I think someone mentioned 17. The fact they still never got promoted leads me to believe theyre all long term jam ups that probably will never get promoted.

Any word on the holdovers? Any intel on them? Will they get promoted?

Leslie · Guru

Again 17 if theyre not cleared up by our first bmoc they die on the list. The last person on the 2015 list has in fact been promoted

2andDone · Veteran Member

The last sgts list was similar. A bunch were promoted with the first class of the current list.

TransitJoe · Senior Member

Out of the 17, id imagine about 10 will be in the next class. Some have been passed over the whole time this list was being promoted from, prob not gonna get promoted at all. Just my opinion based off of the last Sgt list.

Leslie · Guru

2andDone wrote:
The last sgts list was similar. A bunch were promoted with the first class of the current list.

100% true

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

Out of 17 passovers... how many are still otj? Jammer up? Cleared? Any way to get that info?

redcons2 · Senior Member

I personally know one guy from the 15 list that was told he is cleared and going with the first class. I'm sure there are more.

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

so... the old list doesnt expire once the 1st person from a new list gets promoted?

Leslie · Guru

They technically get them promoted prior to the first person on the next list. Most times if you dont get promoted by the last on your list theres a slim chance of getting promoted although some make it through. Only bc theyre usially jammed up pretty badly. Go to the 2015 list and start googling the names of pass overs Im sure some made the news

-- Edited by Leslie on Friday 30th of March 2018 12:57:43 AM

PD2FD · Guru

Hey 63ASAP, can we get an update on the vacancies when you get a chance ? Thanks

Brian Earl Spilner · Veteran Member

77 Vacancies !!!!

Leslie · Guru

Nice! Was hoping 100 vacancies

PD2FD · Guru

Brian Earl Spilner wrote:
77 Vacancies !!!!

Don't listen to this serial killer !! If it's not coming from 63Asap I don't believe it.

63ASAP · Guru

PD2FD wrote:
Hey 63ASAP, can we get an update on the vacancies when you get a chance ? Thanks

I'm out for a few days, but I'll post it when I get back in if no has by then.

Leslie · Guru

63ASAP wrote:
PD2FD wrote:
Hey 63ASAP, can we get an update on the vacancies when you get a chance ? Thanks
I'm out for a few days, but I'll post it when I get back in if no has by then.

Thank you. Enjoy your vacation brother

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

It has to be over 77. It was 72 and 8 a month ago. Definitely wait on 63asap for the real numbers.

63ASAP · Guru

As of April 2, there are 70 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 16 on terminal leave. As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots, it's just the authorized headcount.

That's one less vacancy than last month, which appears to as result of a reinstatement. Combine that with no "terminal" being converted to "retired", and it's a pretty crummy result this time around. Gained 7 on terminal, at least.

CappedOut · Senior Member

My completely worthless and probably wrong prediction: List comes out early May. Back to back classes of 30, nothing for two months, and another class of 30 in October bringing the vacancies to 0. Scores of 94 and up promoted by the fall.

nupecop · Senior Member

List def out by this month as far as class size that is still uncertain

JobsAJoke · Senior Member

nupecop wrote:
List def out by this month as far as class size that is still uncertain

Based on?

81mm · Veteran Member

Dept will recieve the list from DCAS by next week. When it will be released publicly by DCAS is up to the PC

Promotions April 27 or May 2, unk if it will include probationary Lts

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

Does it include Lts on this Personnel Order???

-- Edited by SRGrook033 on Tuesday 10th of April 2018 05:30:42 PM

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

SRGrook033 wrote:
Does it include Lts on this Personnel Order???

-- Edited by SRGrook033 on Tuesday 10th of April 2018 05:30:42 PM

It looks like they would be included. The retirement date for those names is January.

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

Any updates on vacancies?

CappedOut · Senior Member

Just doing the math. The past 7 months there's been roughly 80 vacancies. Equals out to about 11 per month.

Figure LT bmocs are roughly 30-40 people. Hopefully the first class takes care of the bulk of vacancies. Next class would be 3-4 months after that. Hopefully first class makes May... if they do next class seems like it would be August-September. If they don't and they start in June, then September-October.

wereinbacklog · Guru

Not sure if it has been mentioned but was told class of 50 tentatively scheduled for June.

4th Time · Senior Member

Thanks for the info....

PD2FD · Guru

wereinbacklog wrote:
Not sure if it has been mentioned but was told class of 50 tentatively scheduled for June.

Thanks for the info, we appreciate when a guru and reliable poster like yourself provides us with good information.

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

wereinbacklog wrote:
Not sure if it has been mentioned but was told class of 50 tentatively scheduled for June.

Thanks for the info backlog

SRGrook033 · Senior Member

63ASAP wrote:
As of April 2, there are 70 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 16 on terminal leave. As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots, it's just the authorized headcount.

That's one less vacancy than last month, which appears to as result of a reinstatement. Combine that with no "terminal" being converted to "retired", and it's a pretty crummy result this time around. Gained 7 on terminal, at least.

Can we get End of the month vacancy update?

thx

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

63ASAP do you have the vacancy and terminal numbers as of May 1. Thanks.

4th Time · Senior Member

I hear its about 90.

63ASAP · Guru

Hey guys, once I get them you'll be the first to know. It trickles down to me a few days into the month. Maybe someone will have it before me but if not, I promise I didn't forget. I'm just as curious as everyone else.

4th Time · Senior Member

Remember guys/gals.. the class of 91.. very huge class. 27 yrs. Exodus this week for many.. Should add to the numbers..

Futureauxiliary · Guru

4th Time wrote:
Remember guys/gals.. the class of 91.. very huge class. 27 yrs. Exodus this week for many.. Should add to the numbers..

Why retire at 27yrs ? What makes 27yrs a mass exodus as oppose to just completing the 30yrs?

4th Time · Senior Member

27 = 3/4 .... For some, why stay and extra three yrs...The goal for most is to reach that point if youre tier 2. I cant begin to explain how tough it is to stay beyond the time necessary to achieve that goal. Point of my pervious post was that there were many LTs out of the 91 class that i know of personally that are going down this week to throw the towel in... when you get to your 20th yrs you'll see. Lol. Enjoy those chart days.

-- Edited by 4th Time on Wednesday 2nd of May 2018 02:20:53 AM

63ASAP · Guru

As of May 2, there are 78 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 17 on terminal leave. As mentioned before, keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean the job has to fill the spots, it's just the authorized headcount.

RS2323 · Senior Member

Why does anyone take terminal instead of the buy out? I'm sure there's a good reason, I just don't know what it is

Leslie · Guru

RS2323 wrote:
Why does anyone take terminal instead of the buy out? I'm sure there's a good reason, I just don't know what it is

I know of two people who ran their time and came back just to go on vacation bc they were denied by their CO. just bc theyre on terminal does not mean theyre going to retire

RS2323 · Senior Member

But then they are missing out on $20,000 or so

TransitJoe · Senior Member

When you apply for retirement, you automatically burn all your accrued time before your terminal officially starts. I knew a Lt who applied for reirement to burn all his accrued time for the summer, and then came back before his official terminal leave started. Now he still gets to do the buyout when he really does retire.

Leslie · Guru

TransitJoe wrote:
When you apply for retirement, you automatically burn all your accrued time before your terminal officially starts. I knew a Lt who applied for reirement to burn all his accrued time for the summer, and then came back before his official terminal leave started. Now he still gets to do the buyout when he really does retire.

100% correct and a lot of people do it.

4th Time · Senior Member

But at the end of the day... they are taking big chances in losing their cushy spot....

Leslie · Guru

4th Time wrote:
But at the end of the day... they are taking big chances in losing their cushy spot....

Lmao they were all patrol Lts. They do still exist... one was on midnights and got bounced to day tours. He knew the consequences and it was 100% worth it. Not every Lt has a cushy gig

-- Edited by Leslie on Thursday 3rd of May 2018 04:12:38 PM

CanIbeYourCorey · Member

4th Time wrote:
But at the end of the day... they are taking big chances in losing their cushy spot....

yea but you are only possibly losing whatever spot you may have for what approx 2 months or so or whatever your terminal time would be.... so you "work" those 2 months doing whatever earn your extra 25k or so and then retire.

63ASAP · Guru

Hey guys, got some more promising mid-month numbers for everyone. As of May 16, there are 83 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 21 on terminal leave.

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

63ASAP wrote:
Hey guys, got some more promising mid-month numbers for everyone. As of May 16, there are 83 lieutenant vacancies (which includes allotment for LCD/LSA), and an additional 21 on terminal leave.

Thanks for the update. Great news for everyone. Hopefully the vacancies keep coming.