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Aqfyn3st · Senior Member

Throw outs

TenFour16 · Guru

Im hoping so.

Thebirds · Senior Member

I mean, it's hard to say because we can't discuss the questions here. I think it's ridiculous and only hurts us at the protest. The makeup is a different test.

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

I could only speculate there may be ALOT of ppl said the in basket was very hard. Last time i heard dcas was trying to make this test straightforward. We shall see

UrinalFly · Senior Member

Do they give explainations on how to solve the inbasket, or do they just expect us to figure it out kn our own?

Aqfyn3st · Senior Member

From all the schools they said straight forward test and there will be no throw outs. Don't get me wrong the technical knowledge was fair. Tough but fair. Just that inbasket was so brutal.

What is ur prediction on throw outs on inbasket?

I believe maybe 1.

fighten0h · Member

how would the schools know if anything will be thrown out?

There were two questions that i think could have been thrown out because although the question was fair the procedure itself is contradictory. I reread the procedures several times. although I'm not sure how questions get thrown out, i have to assume if the procedure is bad to begin with one can argue that the question should be thrown out?

Apparently one question was missing a word in the question also?

Gk06 · Veteran Member

Thebirds wrote:
I mean, it's hard to say because we can't discuss the questions here. I think it's ridiculous and only hurts us at the protest. The makeup is a different test.

Very true!! We could risk a weak protest by not being on the same page.

We shouldn't be screwing ourselves or those on the verge of passing out of fear a few people may score some cheap points

anyone who is taking the make up has people feeding them test questions already

Aqfyn3st · Senior Member

Technicall knowledge I believer yes one question did have a word missing.

My main worries is the inbasket. Just hoping get some miracle on that inbasket.

Thebirds · Senior Member

fighten0h wrote:
how would the schools know if anything will be thrown out?

There were two questions that i think could have been thrown out because although the question was fair the procedure itself is contradictory. I reread the procedures several times. although I'm not sure how questions get thrown out, i have to assume if the procedure is bad to begin with one can argue that the question should be thrown out?

Apparently one question was missing a word in the question also?

Can you PM me the questions you're thinking of?

Nyfine · Veteran Member

Well....we could email each other........ Pm each other. I have 2 bones to pick with Dcas!! Lol

fighten0h · Member

What two questions did you have NYFINE?

goose-eggs · Veteran Member

How would you know who actually took the test and who is just pretending, trying to get an easy point ? Yea, I know it says different test but who is to say dcas won't recycle some questions

TenFour16 · Guru

If you guys want. We can all PM each other so we can be on the same page. Idk about you guys, but all the guys ive spoken to are so pissed off very few of them will protest anything. At the same time I understand why though. We dont want to accept it, but the realoty is the questions were fine. They were just very obscure and stuff we didnt focus on while studying. You cant protest that.

And yes, I remember the "which is most" question. Didnt say most correct or incorrect.

BossLady · Member

Please be very careful about discussing questions on this forum and/or discussing questions through PM. Do not fall for the tricks. Why give someone an advantage that you did not have?

TenFour16 · Guru

Allegedly, there was also a "according to 212" instead of 221 question. They didnt list it as 221 even though it was moved.

fighten0h · Member

if the procedure was incorrectly stated that should be thrown out.. especially if they locked you into a question.

Thebirds · Senior Member

BossLady wrote:
Please be very careful about discussing questions on this forum and/or discussing questions through PM. Do not fall for the tricks. Why give someone an advantage that you did not have?

The. Makeup. Is. A. Different. Exam.

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

O **** i remember that question...the which is most one yea they should get rid of that at least.

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

Sorry didnt meant to curse

Nyfine · Veteran Member

I don't want to post questions on here......pm if anything.

Aqfyn3st · Senior Member

All I care about is inbasket and throw outs

Gk06 · Veteran Member

We all know why we don't want to post questions bc we don't want the make-ups getting free points

dcas doesn't want us discussing questions bc we will be more prepared at the protest

Aqfyn3st · Senior Member

If they give the scammers a different test they will sue

soccerpsyco32 · Senior Member

FYI the different make up test starts with the LT test this summer. Not with this SGT test. Don't discuss questions with ANYONE. Make up test takers would lose a lawsuit if they brought it based on a different test. That has been the whole point of the research questions on these previous exams; to see if different yet similar questions would yield similar results. Obviously they do if they're going to be giving a different test to make up scammers.

Thebirds · Senior Member

soccerpsyco32 wrote:
FYI the different make up test starts with the LT test this summer. Not with this SGT test. Don't discuss questions with ANYONE. Make up test takers would lose a lawsuit if they brought it based on a different test. That has been the whole point of the research questions on these previous exams; to see if different yet similar questions would yield similar results. Obviously they do if they're going to be giving a different test to make up scammers.

No, actually, this make up is a different exam. Even if it wasn't, the number of scammers has dropped drastically with the Wednesday test. Hurting our protest just to MAYBE prevent easy points for a few people is self defeating.

BlastLivesMatter · Senior Member

On top of us not being able to talk about it and be on the same page. They barred Mike Yanosik and The Key guys from ever taking the test because they would also find throwouts, so they purposely banned them for that

-- Edited by BlastLivesMatter on Saturday 25th of February 2017 09:31:27 PM

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

yes we all need to b on the same page for this protest. I think maybe week after next we should all pm each other or maybe makeup something where we can all talk privately about what we are going to bring up.

Nyfine · Veteran Member

I'm actually willing to meet up in person before this protest To grab an extra point of two.

BossLady · Member

If you all insist on discussing questions at least wait until the makeup exam is given. Again, do not discuss questions or PM these people on this forum. Do not give anyone an unfair advantage. One or two points dosen't seem like a lot now but it will when you see how many names ahead of you a person can get with one more point than you.

-- Edited by BossLady on Saturday 25th of February 2017 09:44:57 PM

Thebirds · Senior Member

BossLady wrote:
If you all insist on discussing questions at least wait until the makeup exam is given. Again, do not discuss questions or PM these people on this forum. Do not give anyone an unfair advantage. One or two points dosen't seem like a lot now but it will when you see how many names ahead of you a person can get with one more point than you.

-- Edited by BossLady on Saturday 25th of February 2017 09:44:57 PM

The make up might be after the protest. And your point is moot if we fail by a couple points that may have been given to us if we all brainstormed for the protest. I don't give a **** what my list number is, I just want to pass. This is going to be a small list anyway.

Gk06 · Veteran Member

Just realized Iab maybe all over this website after the issues from last test. They made us sign off that we would not discuss this test on such sites like this.

Point is we can continue to prep/study for the protest which is technically part of the testing process!!!!

Lieutenantorbust · Veteran Member

If what's being talked about in the other thread is true then this test is being tossed.
It appears that one of the test writers was in direct conflict of city laws by selling the questions on a now defunct website.

Gk06 · Veteran Member

Wtf are you serious

Lieutenantorbust · Veteran Member

I don't have any inside info. But the guy or gal who blew this case wide open (the blueline leaders fiasco) seems to be in the know and mentioned something about one of those sergeants writing the exam.
If confirmed then the test will def be tossed. He'll be collared but the test will be tossed.
It's too glaring of a conflict.

Caballo Loco · Senior Member

Nobody should be discussing any questions on this forum period. Nobody should have an unfair advantage . I hope any post discussing the questions gets quickly deleted by the moderators.

tdcarlin1 · Senior Member

someone says the test is getting thrown out EVERY test...in 2013, it was because of rampant cheating ... its not getting thrown out

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

Wth i really hope they dont do that alot of ppl i know took the time out and away from their families to study their butts of for the test. If they toss this test thats gunna be ANOTHER several months of studying that NOONE is gunna wanna do. I woud hope they would have another solution. Do you have any more concrete info??

Lieutenantorbust · Veteran Member

tdcarlin1 wrote:
someone says the test is getting thrown out EVERY test...in 2013, it was because of rampant cheating ... its not getting thrown out

In 2013 the cheaters were the exam takers. Here it's the exam writer who cheated. When a few people cheat it's unfair to toss the whole test but when the WHOLE system is compromised? IS this confirmed btw? If one of the test writers owned this school mark my words that your exam is getting thrown out. Sorry

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

this is sooo crazy wow......if anyone has more info please by all means share this. I really hope this isn't confirmed smh at this dept. soon they are going to stop giving test for promotions and instead test you another way.

Thebirds · Senior Member

I doubt this is true. Just people spreading nonsense rumors.

Terrystop · Veteran Member

Not really a person from the Key has written tests before they make you swear to secrecy

-- Edited by Terrystop on Sunday 26th of February 2017 02:18:39 PM

TenFour16 · Guru

Stop believing everything you see here. The guys who took this difficult exam should focus on some badly written questions so we can fight them. As the days go on it seems like more and more questions were a little messed up.

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

EXACTLY.....tenfour is right

Lieutenantorbust · Veteran Member

Terrystop wrote:
Not really a person from the Key has written tests before they make you swear to secrecy

-- Edited by Terrystop on Sunday 26th of February 2017 02:18:39 PM

All the schools has/had someone who wrote test before. But they were not involved in making money off of the exam WHILE writing exam questions. You can write exams before or after but not during

-- Edited by Lieutenantorbust on Sunday 26th of February 2017 02:30:07 PM

Thebirds · Senior Member

We need to start pooling our knowledge for this protest. It's harder to disregard multiple people protesting the same questions.

bignutz88 · Senior Member

prayingforapass70 wrote:
this is sooo crazy wow......if anyone has more info please by all means share this. I really hope this isn't confirmed smh at this dept. soon they are going to stop giving test for promotions and instead test you another way.

One thing I can say if it is true, the test will be thrown out. I will make sure of it. Also one of the "writers" is a 3 year cop, which means he may have been privy to test questions. S

Sarge, you better send that refund ASAP or im gonna create some serious waves.

TenFour16 · Guru

This is starting to get real interesting.

Lieutenantorbust · Veteran Member

If true then they are getting collared for grand larceny. How stupid can you get.

prayingforapass70 · Senior Member

WTF