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RMP6969 · Senior Member

LT. vacancies

Hairbag · Member

Someone told me that because of civil service law, there has to be a proportionate ratio between cops, sgts and Lts... I.e. 1/8/24. I would figure this would mean that when another class of rookies gets out it would open up 30 or so Lt spots. Apparently this rule doesn't apply to capt's, hence the hiring freeze rumor on them? Thoughts anyone?

DETSGT · Guru

Hairbag wrote:
Someone told me that because of civil service law, there has to be a proportionate ratio between cops, sgts and Lts... I.e. 1/8/24. I would figure this would mean that when another class of rookies gets out it would open up 30 or so Lt spots. Apparently this rule doesn't apply to capt's, hence the hiring freeze rumor on them? Thoughts anyone?

Civil service law would not dictate how many promotions a dept can do. That's up to the individual dept. If they want to promote a hundred Lt's tomorrow they will.

Huyova · Senior Member

How do vacancies get checked. Is there a computer application on the intranet? And who has access to it.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

Huyova wrote:
How do vacancies get checked. Is there a computer application on the intranet? And who has access to it.

PEMU, it's on host-on-demand and I know I don't have access to it.

DOA · Senior Member

Sorry I posted in the wrong topic.

-- Edited by DOA on Friday 26th of February 2016 12:27:13 AM

TicketoutofNarco · Veteran Member

One LESS lieutenant vacancy with that PROBATIONARY captain most likely being demoted.

Wingnut · Senior Member

Hairbag wrote:
Someone told me that because of civil service law, there has to be a proportionate ratio between cops, sgts and Lts... I.e. 1/8/24. I would figure this would mean that when another class of rookies gets out it would open up 30 or so Lt spots. Apparently this rule doesn't apply to capt's, hence the hiring freeze rumor on them? Thoughts anyone?

I thought Sgt and POs have a ratio the job wants to keep to. LT and above have a set number of

positions, regardless of PO and Sgt numbers. That's how the LT Vacancy number is usually set for a while while the Sgt vacancy number changes by the day.

ltexm2015 · Veteran Member

Can someone update the lt vacancies??

Bklyn net · Senior Member

It will be interesting to see who goes in the first class since about 27 out of top 30 took the test after April ..do they skip all of them ? Some ? None ? First class will tell a lot ..stay safe .

-- Edited by Bklyn net on Tuesday 1st of March 2016 11:02:54 PM

PD2FD · Guru

Bklyn net wrote:
It will be interesting to see who goes in the first class since about 27 out of top 30 took the test after April ..do they skip all of them ? Some ? None ? First class will tell a lot ..stay safe .

-- Edited by Bklyn net on Tuesday 1st of March 2016 11:02:54 PM

I hope all these scammers get passed over and never get promoted. I would hate to have one of these scammers be in charge of a platoon.

-- Edited by PD2FD on Tuesday 1st of March 2016 11:07:46 PM

Cheaterpolice · Veteran Member

I hope they get passed over. They don't deserve to be promoted

Wheresthelist · Guru

I ran it earlier today and there were 54 Lt opening. I'll update the terminl numbers tomorrow

GDASSCLUB · Senior Member

Wow 54 spots. That's 26% of our list.

bigfoot45 · Guru

I don't understand how we suddenly got 54 vacancies.

GDASSCLUB · Senior Member

Numbers are higher because they promoted Lt's last week to LDS and Lsa

sixmonthwonder · Guru

Does this mean the first class from our list may be 50ish?

Wheresthelist · Guru

I would expect a class wouldnt be more then 30ish

ltexm2015 · Veteran Member

wheresthelist....do you have offucial breakdown of vacancies/terminal?

Wheresthelist · Guru

I'll get it today.

Bklyn net · Senior Member

This list might not move as fast that captain list just isn't moving

Wheresthelist · Guru

Totals as of 3/3 @ 1100 hours
54 vac
17 terminal

Term
March 2
April 7
May 4
June 1
July 1
Aug 1
Sept 1

sixmonthwonder · Guru

Wow, thanks a lot. Hope they put in 50+ in the first class, would give me a shot.

Cheaterpolice · Veteran Member

I would be shocked if they put a class of 50 lieutenants. I think 30-35 is realistic. The hope should be that the make up testers are passed over, which would accelerate our promotion date, especially considering the top 30 are all cheaters

sixmonthwonder · Guru

Cheaterpolice wrote:
I would be shocked if they put a class of 50 lieutenants. I think 30-35 is realistic. The hope should be that the make up testers are passed over, which would accelerate our promotion date, especially considering the top 30 are all cheaters

I was thinking 30 - 35 as well. I wouldn't have a chance then unless all makeup testers were passed over.

bigfoot45 · Guru

Looks like they could do a back to back classes of about 30 or so.... and then no promotions for quite a while.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

bigfoot45 wrote:
Looks like they could do a back to back classes of about 30 or so.... and then no promotions for quite a while.

That would be pretty hot.

IShredMajors · Senior Member

30-35 makes sense because I believe someone said on the 2011 forum that they can only accommodate one class over 35 people. Since there is a sergeant class going in, I don't think they can handle a lot of others as well. Also if there is a captain promotion that will give us more vacancies, so we may be looking at back to back. Obviously this is all speculation.

Wheresthelist · Guru

No changes since 3/3

ltexm2015 · Veteran Member

wheres the list....do you know how to look at LIEUTENANT special assign vacancies?

Wheresthelist · Guru

As of today there are
1400 lt's
137 Lsa's
162 Lcd's

There is no specific amounts of lsa or lcd's as far as i know it a precentage of total lt's

IShredMajors · Senior Member

So now that we are going without a class for April, what are the vacancies like?

Nikkydenimblue · Veteran Member

Lol @ishredmajors

IShredMajors · Senior Member

Maybe that came off wrong, but what I mean is this:

How badly does the job need LTS? If it's a lot of vacancies there will be pressure to resolve this quickly.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

IShredMajors wrote:
Maybe that came off wrong, but what I mean is this:
How badly does the job need LTS? If it's a lot of vacancies there will be pressure to resolve this quickly.

Hope so as well, though I don't think the job cares about anything other than how the public views it. If the Department really cared they wouldn't have allowed this to happen in the first place.

From what I've heard the judge didn't order promotions to be cancelled, in fact he scheduled the hearing for Monday to not delay them. The job cancelled the promotions, shows how much they care about us. "Congratulations on a monumental, unforgettable moment in your life. Er, April Fools you idiots!"

Wheresthelist · Guru

As of today there are 59 vac for Lt

Bklyn net · Senior Member

Does that mean 59 spots? That's a lot

CappedOut · Senior Member

Isn't there an overage of like 40-50 captains?

sixmonthwonder · Guru

CappedOut wrote:
Isn't there an overage of like 40-50 captains?

Yes, but there are still a lot of lieutenant vacancies...that won't be filled now.

common sense · Senior Member

Add another vacancy since a lieutenant got demoted in PSA7

PD2FD · Guru

Wtf !!! Hey common sense, can you PM me who it was...I may know that LT

Su Madre 24 · Guru

Acuria

STOPTHEINSANITY · Veteran Member

As of today there probably won't be lieutenant promotions until June. The job does not want the test thrown out because it could take 10 months or up to a year to get another one up and running.

PD2FD · Guru

STOPTHEINSANITY wrote:
As of today there probably won't be lieutenant promotions until June. The job does not want the test thrown out because it could take 10 months or up to a year to get another one up and running.

So what does the "job" plan on doing these next 3 months ? Are they actually going to investigate the cheaters and punish them accordingly ? Or do they hope this all blows over by June and just promote the cheaters who scored a 104, 99 etc. ?

sixmonthwonder · Guru

STOPTHEINSANITY wrote:
As of today there probably won't be lieutenant promotions until June. The job does not want the test thrown out because it could take 10 months or up to a year to get another one up and running.

Thanks for the info.

common sense · Senior Member

We all know how this job works, they will wait it out. Start doing promotions once it has passed over hoping no one calls the papers again and brings it back to light. Or if someone does bring it to light they will state they found no wrong doings.

96Times6 · Senior Member

Can we get an update on the vacancies, a whole bunch of lt's put in for retirement in the last two weeks.

bigfoot45 · Guru

Can someone post the vacancies?

Wheresthelist · Guru

Last i checked a few days ago the job was short about 66 Lt's and with retirements (and assuming no one gets made) by the end of may they will be short 90 Lts

HeatNut · Member

What are the Sergeant vacancies?