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NYPD231 · Senior Member

There will be no further legal action.

Garbage_Compactor_Robot_Jesus · Member

I spoke to Michelle today who was our lawyer. If you remember, the judge refused to grant an injunction but told us we could refile the complaint once the list came out. Our argument was that test #1534 was arbitrary and capricious. But this week Michele talked with lawyers from DCAS who told her that a total of only seven questions would require answer key adjustments. (No, I dont know how many were throwouts vs. double answers, which questions are changing, and DCAS has no idea what the release date is.) Michele told us that if only 7 questions require adjustment, it is hard to argue that the test was arbitrary and capricious. She said she did not advise us to proceed any further, though we could if we wanted to pay more. There is no interest, including from myself, in paying any more money. So thats it. Case closed. No more lawsuit. The only word of encouragement we got was from a DCAS lawyer who told Michele Tell your clients not to be too upset. This list will be shorter- less than 700 people- and there will be another test in three years or so. But this does little good for me. I have 14 years on now and by that time it will not be worth studying again.

I got a 58 and I am not getting promoted. I got excited because DCAS wanted my proof for my veterans credit, but that means nothing. The names for veterans credit were apparently chosen before the review process was even over. I have now studied hard for two Lts tests, and will never be promoted. In the end, this is partially my fault. I spent six years in the Marines because my parents, who left PR for the Bronx when I was 15, did not have money for me to go to college. I did not have the grades either. I had the veterans credit on the 2006 test and did not use it because I though for sure I would get promoted and wanted to save it for the captains test. Had I filed for the credit in 2006, I would been promoted by now. Instead I died on the list and I will retire a sergeant. This is not the worst thing in the world considering my father and mother never made more than 10 dollars an hour in their life, but it hurts working so hard and coming so close, only to fail now. At least the whole process forced me to go back to school and get a degree, which is something good.

I know many of you people were upset about the lawsuit, but I hope you also understand what this whole dumb process put us through. I am done with promotional tests. I just want to wish you all luck. I really do wish you all the best.

NYPD231 · Senior Member

Thank you for explaining your motivations. I have to selfishly say that I'm glad the lawsuit didn't work out, but best of luck to you.

Edubz · Senior Member

everybody was so confident about the 14 dbl/5 throwouts...guess not

Edubz · Senior Member

not sure what to believe anymore

habidasheryauto10 · Member

You guys are so easy to get, this guy is a total ****ing troll. And a complete Edp for taking the time out to construct that.

stiggityone · Guru

Well written post and I'm sorry things didn't work out for you. I have to ask though....and I'm not trying to throw salt on your open wounds....But why save your vet pts for a Capt's test when that is essentially a pass fail exam? No one signs up, and only a 100 or so pass. With the competitive nature of a Lt's exam, that is the test to use it on. Just don't understand what your logic was there.

stiggityone · Guru

...And you're probably right Habadashery.

Bronx Party Hat · Veteran Member

Whether you're a "troll" or not, I have one question for you. Why would you defer your veteran's credit for a captain's exam??? Most people take the rank of sergeant with the mindset of becoming a lieutenant one day. Once you reach the coveted rank of lieutenant, now you have options as far as your career goes BUT to be that confident that you would be promoted and not die on a list is absolutely mind boggling.

habidasheryauto10 · Member

No lawyer is going to say no to 20 people throwing their money away, that's the first clue. Secondly this guy posted he had his vet interview on the 30th. When today is the last day. It's gonna be a small list of 700 and will go fast with only 7 changes gimme a break. Last list went full 4 years and reached 755.

NextLtTest · Senior Member

I hope this post is true. I do find it hard to believe. I do not think that 7 throwouts would boost the list to 700. Just find it kind of weird that it is 7 throwouts and alot of people are posting that they got 60-63. Then he says that even though he got a letter it does not mean he passed they are just sending it to everyone " The names for veterans credit were apparently chosen before the review process was even over. " It seems A little strange to me. Take this post with a grain of salt.

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

NextLtTest wrote:
I hope this post is true. I do find it hard to believe. I do not think that 7 throwouts would boost the list to 700. Just find it kind of weird that it is 7 throwouts and alot of people are posting that they got 60-63. Then he says that even though he got a letter it does not mean he passed they are just sending it to everyone " The names for veterans credit were apparently chosen before the review process was even over. " It seems A little strange to me. Take this post with a grain of salt.

Someone could just call the lawyer and ask....

Nofurther · Veteran Member

i will give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

Nofurther wrote:
i will give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

Really? I won't. This is the guy who said the in-basket was anti-semitic.

Garbage_Compactor_Robot_Jesus · Member

Bronx Party Hat wrote:
Whether you're a "troll" or not, I have one question for you. Why would you defer your veteran's credit for a captain's exam??? Most people take the rank of sergeant with the mindset of becoming a lieutenant one day. Once you reach the coveted rank of lieutenant, now you have options as far as your career goes BUT to be that confident that you would be promoted and not die on a list is absolutely mind boggling.

I really messed up. Based on the way things went between 1998 and 2005, I thought I would be promoted to LT within three years. It used to be the captains list that went really slow, and having extra points could make the difference of years.

Garbage_Compactor_Robot_Jesus · Member

habidasheryauto10 wrote:
You guys are so easy to get, this guy is a total ****ing troll. And a complete Edp for taking the time out to construct that.

I don't need or deserve to take this abuse. There are some good people that post here, but now that I know I am not getting promoted, there is no good reason for me to continue checking this website. I'm done. No more exams or exam websites. I wish you all good luck. Some of you will be good Lt's.

NextLtTest · Senior Member

Nofurther wrote:

i will give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

You give him the benefit of the doubt? What about this post:"Now that our honorable jarhead friend leatherneck has confirmed from dcas that if you went down to verify your military points today it means you passed. What is the lowest raw score that we know got called. And no one say robot Jesus with a 58 that guy is sh*t stirrer. " Wouldn't it be better to give leatherneck the benefit of the doubt?

razor1 · Veteran Member

My ex partnet went today for his military points and we both had a 60 on the test. I sure hope something good come out of this. BTW I hit Top Pay in 3 days!!!!!!!! God Bless America biggrin

NextLtTest · Senior Member

@ Razor1.....Congrats, did they say this meant you passed?

Stanza · Senior Member

Garbage_Compactor_Robot_Jesus wrote:
habidasheryauto10 wrote:
You guys are so easy to get, this guy is a total ****ing troll. And a complete Edp for taking the time out to construct that.
I don't need or deserve to take this abuse. There are some good people that post here, but now that I know I am not getting promoted, there is no good reason for me to continue checking this website. I'm done. No more exams or exam websites. I wish you all good luck. Some of you will be good Lt's.

Abuse?

razor1 · Veteran Member

I don't know if i made it, but he was told that they were verifying military service to grant the proper credits. I hope we both get it or at least him for all that matters. Good luck all

Quahog PD · Member

Im watching the original Psycho on the Encore Channel right now. I must say, Im not overly impressed by this movie. Im just saying.

Quahog PD · Member

Sorry, that post was meant to go on FaceBook. Lol.

Ike Turner · Veteran Member

The fact that some people believe in this post is a testament to the overwhelming stupidity of this board.

oneadditional · Guru

I know for a fact that there are over 15 changes made to this exam. Don't believe this fool for one second. You have guys with a 60 getting the veterans letter so he should have made up a better lie. Good try.

Abeyance · Senior Member

I tell ya, the shyte that gets written about this exam is astounding.
Let me just say this: Not even the Chief of Dept. knows right now when the list is coming down, and if he does it will be right before we all know. This whole exam is wrapped in delusions and misinfo all around.

Abeyance · Senior Member

BTW. the number of questions that will require key adjustments is in the high teens.

NextLtTest · Senior Member

Abeyance wrote:

I tell ya, the shyte that gets written about this exam is astounding.
Let me just say this: Not even the Chief of Dept. knows right now when the list is coming down, and if he does it will be right before we all know. This whole exam is wrapped in delusions and misinfo all around.

Then how do you know adjusted answers are in high teens?

Abeyance · Senior Member

good question.
A close friend was recently assigned to DCAS

oneadditional · Guru

It has to be because this test was horrible.

Horseman · Veteran Member

I'm 100% sure, we'll have more than 7 questions adjusted.

Sonofxavier3 · Veteran Member

Are u really sure he is not correct? I mean who knows? Up until now EVERYONE OF EVERYBODY'S SOURCES HAS BEEN WRONG

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

Sonofxavier3 wrote:
Are u really sure he is not correct? I mean who knows? Up until now EVERYONE OF EVERYBODY'S SOURCES HAS BEEN WRONG

If your going to be annoying, please be annoying using the proper grammar. Being that I don't have all day, I'll point out one of the very many mistakes you just made in your one sentence: Everyone is not the same as every one. Anyone else want to jump in???

Sonofxavier3 · Veteran Member

I'm sorry u don't like what I say, but really how do we know whats going on????

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

Sonofxavier3 wrote:
I'm sorry u don't like what I say, but really how do we know whats going on????

There is no "we." "We" hate your guts, now go kick rocks.

smartcookie · Senior Member

Jimmy McNulty IV wrote:
Sonofxavier3 wrote:
Are u really sure he is not correct? I mean who knows? Up until now EVERYONE OF EVERYBODY'S SOURCES HAS BEEN WRONG
If your going to be annoying, please be annoying using the proper grammar. Being that I don't have all day, I'll point out one of the very many mistakes you just made in your one sentence: Everyone is not the same as every one. Anyone else want to jump in???

Actually Jimmy, your grammar is also incorrect. It's "you're going to be annoying" not "your" in this case.

Jimmy McNulty IV · Senior Member

smartcookie wrote:
Jimmy McNulty IV wrote:
Sonofxavier3 wrote:
Are u really sure he is not correct? I mean who knows? Up until now EVERYONE OF EVERYBODY'S SOURCES HAS BEEN WRONG
If your going to be annoying, please be annoying using the proper grammar. Being that I don't have all day, I'll point out one of the very many mistakes you just made in your one sentence: Everyone is not the same as every one. Anyone else want to jump in???
Actually Jimmy, your grammar is also incorrect. It's "you're going to be annoying" not "your" in this case.
Sorry, I'm typing on my iPhone because all the computers in my house have been banned. "You're" correct. Hey thanks for sharing!

Tommy Salami · Senior Member

I love it when people make a grammar mistake when correcting someone else's grammar. Way to go jimmy

nycop80 · Guru

oneadditional wrote:
I know for a fact that there are over 15 changes made to this exam. Don't believe this fool for one second. You have guys with a 60 getting the veterans letter so he should have made up a better lie. Good try.

oneaddtional is a good man. I agree. This post is closed. And Ike, if you dont like the board then stop spamming with dumb comments.