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oneadditional · Guru

RE: MASTER KEY

Edubz · Senior Member

bad question, i specifically remember looking to see if the drugs stuck and no such info.

oneadditional · Guru

It was not a bad question and in 208-34 line 9a it says forward the ORIGINAL to the chief of department direct now the other 6 get held if the case is dp'd but that ORIGINAL goes to the chief of department direct regardless. ANOTHER CHEAP SHOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mes018 · Senior Member

Said cop came back and said "da refused to keep the bribery charge". That would imply the drugs stuck. Never said declined to prosecute.

oneadditional · Guru

MESO what did you pick for the compstat question where the lieutenant had to look over the spaa's work

Edubz · Senior Member

it was a poor question, a well written question there would be no debate whatsoever, either you know it or not. they did not make it clear that the drugs were kept and bribery declined. these guys got 6 months off patrol to write 100 questions, i have little sympathy for the carelessness of this crew.

oneadditional · Guru

You're right EDUBz. Way to many of these questions were written poorly. They spent to much time trying their best to trick you on every question where as in the past may 1 or 2 questions were written like that but now it seems 95% of the test is going to be protested because they F****** up trying to be too slick. This is going to be interesting.

Mes018 · Senior Member

oneadditional wrote:
MESO what did you pick for the compstat question where the lieutenant had to look over the spaa's work

You remember the choices, or more Details of the question?

PatrolGuideismyBible · Guru

The bribery one was very vague and poorly worded. I picked get the DP letter bc they never said the drugs were "decline to prosecute", they just said the ADA would not prosecute Birbery. Thats it, much like everything on this test, too vague and up for interpretation.

As for the Plt Cmdr, he starts banging out those 7 49's as soon as the DO tells him that a cop is charging bribery. The ICO updates the same 49's after the cop deals with the ADA and the cop has to update the CO.

I knew that procedure well, but it was a vague fact pattern, I am just assuming the CPCS stuck, but who the hell knows???

Whatwasthat · Veteran Member

oneadditional wrote:
Can we discuss the compstat question with about the lieutenant looking over the spaa's work

which one? more info!!!

oneadditional · Guru

There was a question of the CO giving the lieutenant some compstat paperwork to look over and the spaa supposedly looked over the paperwork and asked what should you do. I THINK I picked the choice where it said to do your math twice then look over it again. Did anyone get anything different from that

oneadditional · Guru

there was choice that said only look at the stats that make the command look good etc...

PatrolGuideismyBible · Guru

I picked the exact same thing, but cannot remember the other choices...

Mes018 · Senior Member

Oh yeah. That one. I think I picked an answer that said something about checking the math twice.

oneadditional · Guru

I did as well but we may be wrong according the "supervisors manual" and if that book is that standard how come we didn't read it in BMOC ?

Mes018 · Senior Member

What would that book say is the right answer?

oneadditional · Guru

Who knows

infinity · Senior Member

anyone remember what they put for the question that went along the lines.... of a spaa being backed up in her own work bc she was reassigned different work by the SOL, because the SOL felt she had enough time to do both.

nycop80 · Guru

Jimmy McNulty wrote:
Took the 12 keys that NYG posted and made 1 based on the majority answer.....
1B
2B
3B
4D
5A
6D
7A
8A
9D
10B
11A
12D
13B
14C
15A
16C
17B
18D
19D
20D
21D
22D
23B
24D
25A, D
26C
27B
28D
29B
30C
31C
32D
33D
34A
35B
36B
37C
38C
39B
40C
41B
42C
43C
44A
45B
46B
47C
48C
49A
50C
51B
52B
53D
54C
55D
56B, D
57C
58B
59C
60D
61A
62D
63D
64A, C
65D
66C
67A
68A
69B
70D
71C
72C
73C
74D
75B
76B
77C
78D
79A
80D
81A
82D
83B
84D
85A
86B
87D
88B
89B, C
90C
91C
92D
93C
94C
95B
96C
97D
98B
99B
100C

Here is my key to add to the others.

-- Edited by nycop80 on Friday 4th of November 2011 11:11:29 AM

oneadditional · Guru

Infinity I reassigned the ADO to her

sig226 · Senior Member

How the hell majority picked d for 18 when correct answer choice was B
It was the question about the strip search. DO tells detective to get his supervisor for strip search.

infinity · Senior Member

oneadditional wrote:
Infinity I reassigned the ADO to her

I think there was another question, with a PAA. some of the answer choices were........

a. look into the PAa workload before you confront the SOL or Admin Lt

b. maybe she is slacking because of the extra unwanted workload

I didnt reassign the ADO bc My thoughts were how can you reassign a position that is non existant in the PG... Whats an ADO? could be wrong but i chose the SPAA until she felt more comfortable with her duties

-- Edited by infinity on Friday 4th of November 2011 02:19:30 PM

OkeeDokee · Veteran Member

sig226 wrote:
How the hell majority picked d for 18 when correct answer choice was B
It was the question about the strip search. DO tells detective to get his supervisor for strip search.

The correct answer isn't chosen by vote.

oneadditional · Guru

There's no right or wrong answer here. It's all judgement and thats another reason why you can't go by these answer keys. Different bosses manage differently this is why in bmoc they gave you the packet on DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT STYLES.

oneadditional · Guru

I got B for 18 as well.

NinoBrown · Veteran Member

OkeeDokee wrote:
sig226 wrote:
How the hell majority picked d for 18 when correct answer choice was B
It was the question about the strip search. DO tells detective to get his supervisor for strip search.
The correct answer isn't chosen by vote.

B is Def the answer. and if the majority picked D then that really makes me think this "tally key" has lost sum major luster...lol.

OkeeDokee · Veteran Member

NinoBrown wrote:
OkeeDokee wrote:
sig226 wrote:
How the hell majority picked d for 18 when correct answer choice was B
It was the question about the strip search. DO tells detective to get his supervisor for strip search.
The correct answer isn't chosen by vote.
B is Def the answer. and if the majority picked D then that really makes me think this "tally key" has lost sum major luster...lol.

The key is crap. P.G. Questions in which I identified the trick and absolutely chose correctly are wrong on the key. Think about it: there were several questions on the test that MOST people got wrong. The key has been determined by choosing the MOST popular answer on a test rife with tricks.

LateRiser · Senior Member

Q18 correct answer is D.

oneadditional · Guru

LateRiser what was choice D

smartcookie · Senior Member

OkeeDokee wrote:
NinoBrown wrote:
OkeeDokee wrote:
sig226 wrote:
How the hell majority picked d for 18 when correct answer choice was B
It was the question about the strip search. DO tells detective to get his supervisor for strip search.
The correct answer isn't chosen by vote.
B is Def the answer. and if the majority picked D then that really makes me think this "tally key" has lost sum major luster...lol.

The key is crap. P.G. Questions in which I identified the trick and absolutely chose correctly are wrong on the key. Think about it: there were several questions on the test that MOST people got wrong. The key has been determined by choosing the MOST popular answer on a test rife with tricks.

This is why I refuse to look at any key other than the official one. Why make yourself crazy?!

wereinbacklog · Guru

NinoBrown wrote:
OkeeDokee wrote:
sig226 wrote:
How the hell majority picked d for 18 when correct answer choice was B
It was the question about the strip search. DO tells detective to get his supervisor for strip search.
The correct answer isn't chosen by vote.
B is Def the answer. and if the majority picked D then that really makes me think this "tally key" has lost sum major luster...lol.

b was what i chose also. I believe choice d stated something about conducting another strip search if reasonable suspicion of weapon/contraband after initial one. Thats correct but d most correct was to ask ur boss for approval regarding d search.

LateRiser · Senior Member

i think D was reasonable susp if u want to strip search again. but i was very very close to choose B. believe it or not but choice B sounded sooooo good that it was too good to be true lol

MN50 · Senior Member

If you look at the key on page 7, B is the most chosen answer. Cop asks for permission from immediate supervisor or bcs supv to conduct strip search

MN50 · Senior Member

Don't have the pg with me, it states in 208-03, or 208-05, it's definitely in the beginning of 208

infinity · Senior Member

MN50 wrote:
If you look at the key on page 7, B is the most chosen answer. Cop asks for permission from immediate supervisor or bcs supv to conduct strip search

The only problem i saw with the answer was it did not say IMMEDIATE supv. just call your command for your supervisor or sopmething like that.. 100% didnt say immediate boss.

I was on this question for awhile between B & D. I didnt want to choose D but I did for that reason

-- Edited by infinity on Friday 4th of November 2011 03:18:42 PM

-- Edited by infinity on Friday 4th of November 2011 03:19:49 PM

LateRiser · Senior Member

-- Edited by LateRiser on Friday 4th of November 2011 03:20:05 PM

LateRiser · Senior Member

MN50 wrote:
Don't have the pg with me, it states in 208-03, or 208-05, it's definitely in the beginni

ur absolutely right abt that. But The way i read the choise was that DO can not authorize the search only immed supv or bcss can. Choice D sounded better to me thats all. Maybe a double answer.

LateRiser · Senior Member

infinity even though i chose D as my choice i think it did state immed supv

unborn · Guru

In my book "your boss" is the same thing as "your immediate supervisor"... but who knows what these bozos were thinking when they wrote it.

wereinbacklog · Guru

infinity wrote:
MN50 wrote:
If you look at the key on page 7, B is the most chosen answer. Cop asks for permission from immediate supervisor or bcs supv to conduct strip search
The only problem i saw with the answer was it did not say IMMEDIATE supv. just call your command for your supervisor or sopmething like that.. 100% didnt say immediate boss.
I was on this question for awhile between B & D. I didnt want to choose D but I did for that reason

-- Edited by infinity on Friday 4th of November 2011 03:18:42 PM

-- Edited by infinity on Friday 4th of November 2011 03:19:49 PM

It did state immediate supervisor.

infinity · Senior Member

no it def did not say the word immediate.

oneadditional · Guru

It did say immediate supervisor

infinity · Senior Member

lol couldnt be any more positive, but whatever!

sig226 · Senior Member

Choice D if you want to conduct an additional strip search if you have reasonable suspicion to believe perp still or acquired weapons/contraband. The correct answer choice is B
Which brings us to question 19. As per new I.O only supervisor authorizing strip search must ensure that command log page # is in details of OLBS. The were looking for incorrect answer choice as the duty of D/O. Correct answer is again B, D/O no longer has anything to do with OLBS. But then again everyone chose D...

LateRiser · Senior Member

infinity dont worry abt it. you chose the right answer for the wrong reasons but at least u got it right

infinity · Senior Member

sig226 wrote:
Choice D if you want to conduct an additional strip search if you have reasonable suspicion to believe perp still or acquired weapons/contraband. The correct answer choice is B
Which brings us to question 19. As per new I.O only supervisor authorizing strip search must ensure that command log page # is in details of OLBS. The were looking for incorrect answer choice as the duty of D/O. Correct answer is again B, D/O no longer has anything to do with OLBS. But then again everyone chose D...

wasnt that the medical treatment form answer?

infinity · Senior Member

LateRiser wrote:
infinity dont worry abt it. you chose the right answer for the wrong reasons but at least u got it right

lol thanks! im going to go to the protest just for that question to verify it did not say immediate

-- Edited by infinity on Friday 4th of November 2011 03:32:30 PM

Bmoc09 · Senior Member

sig226 wrote:
Choice D if you want to conduct an additional strip search if you have reasonable suspicion to believe perp still or acquired weapons/contraband. The correct answer choice is B
Which brings us to question 19. As per new I.O only supervisor authorizing strip search must ensure that command log page # is in details of OLBS. The were looking for incorrect answer choice as the duty of D/O. Correct answer is again B, D/O no longer has anything to do with OLBS. But then again everyone chose D...

The DO also doesn't put the strip search on the "prisoner" medical treatment form. That was D

oneadditional · Guru

I picked medical treatment. I'm not sure if that is correct.

NYG37 · Senior Member

I picked B. I can tell you 100% it did not say immediate supervisor. that choice still sounded good to me.