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wereinbacklog · Guru

RE: How many people will pass!!!!

Dying06Lt · Veteran Member

Didn't sector D have a collar and taken off the roll call

whos on1st · Member

it said the vehicle was a commercial rental vehicle....too vague and can go either way...bad question n def throw out

Dying06Lt · Veteran Member

RumorMill wrote:

My downfall seems to be that I studied the P.G. so much it was hard for me to break procedure. Of course I would give the guy with the sick kid off in real life. But the test has never been based on real life before. The term "needs of the department" is used so much in the Patrol Guide , that I went with what I thought the job would want me to say.

I don't see why it's a problem asking him if there are other family members available, it didn't say deny him if there isn't. What if he answered, my wife is here but her favorite show is on TV.

whos on1st · Member

yes okie dokie is right....it said it was a commercial rental vehicle and that it was a bio-hazard plaque not a hazmat placard.......bad question too vague and open to interpretation.....throw out we have to protest

Gluestick · Veteran Member

par question on the bridge, all the answers said "you do reference the Marker" or "you do not reference the marker".

In the PG its, NOTE: The limited Access Highway Reference Marker Listing (maintained at each command) must be used for reporting accidents occuring on bridges and in tunnels. Reference Marker (if any) actually posted on bridges or in tunnel near an accident site will not be entered on PARs.

when I hear "reference the marker" i think of "reference the quote" or "reference the book". Marker/Quote/Book all being nouns and reference meaning "to look up" in this context?

The answers should have said to utilize the limited Access Highway Reference Marker Listing or NOT

OkeeDokee · Veteran Member

Anyways:
Biohazard is a biological material that poses a threat to humans or the environment. The biohazard symbol that is required for certain Division 6.2 materials is an OSHA requirement detailed in 29 CFR 1910.1030.

A biohazard placard is a "Type" of Hazardous Material Placard under federal law. You can find pictures of them in the North American Emergency Response Guidebook.

A commercial rental vehicle is still a commercial vehicle AFAIK. So, I would argue this question is stupid. It's just writers trying to be clever, but just being stupid.

RICH-PD · Senior Member

The accident question it said reference the marker 5S23 on the par which in the scenario they said was actually posted... Do not reference the maker 5S23 and prepare no supplements is gonna be their answer but it's nonsense

-- Edited by RICH-PD on Tuesday 1st of November 2011 04:33:24 PM

Stbpro · Member

Im still sticking to the fact that it was a mechanical defect!! As per pg 217-03 a mechanical defect gets investigated by hway and gets a dept tow... Whole question is wrong. Plus bio hazard is a type of hazmat placard. It shouldve been no reference marker(it was on a bridge) and 2 supps. U had 2 vehicles(hazmat and commercial weighing more than 10k pounds) and a condition of severity(the mechanical defect tow truck) thats getting towed. Question will def get thrown out

Double 7s · Member

It said that the detail was using vans, didn't it? So you needed 2 van qualified guys.

PatrolGuideismyBible · Guru

3 of the 4 choices had 2 van qualified guys in them

oneadditional · Guru

YES 2 OF THE CHOICES HAD 2 VAN QUALIFIED GUYS AND THATS THE CORRECT ANSWER. DOUBLE 7S IS CORRECT

TunnelRat · Member

3 of the choices might have had 2 van drivers, but only 1 of those 3 choices didnt include rdo people. Then again, o.t. was authorized so whos to say you couldnt use them? BUT...i think there were restricted/limited officers in those choices also

oneadditional · Guru

2 choices B and C had van drivers and but one only C had 2 van drivers and all others included in the choice were legit. The other choices had mos going to court, or limited and had no van qualified mos

Bmoc09 · Senior Member

oneadditional wrote:
2 choices B and C had van drivers and but one only C had 2 van drivers and all others included in the choice were legit. The other choices had mos going to court, or limited and had no van qualified mos

what number was that?

Sgtfahlife · Veteran Member

Their PG questions were extremely difficult

NextLtTest · Senior Member

oneadditional wrote:
2 choices B and C had van drivers and but one only C had 2 van drivers and all others included in the choice were legit. The other choices had mos going to court, or limited and had no van qualified mos

Two answers had two van drivers, was one of them limited did I miss that?

oneadditional · Guru

Yes it was something like that

PatrolGuideismyBible · Guru

Stbpro wrote:
Im still sticking to the fact that it was a mechanical defect!! As per pg 217-03 a mechanical defect gets investigated by hway and gets a dept tow... Whole question is wrong. Plus bio hazard is a type of hazmat placard. It shouldve been no reference marker(it was on a bridge) and 2 supps. U had 2 vehicles(hazmat and commercial weighing more than 10k pounds) and a condition of severity(the mechanical defect tow truck) thats getting towed. Question will def get thrown out

I thought HWY only bothered with mechanical defect jobs when it involved something like an AIS job, you know where they have to be called to investigate, not just any 10-53 where the driver complained of faulty brakes/equipment.

just wondering · Member

Your all wrong w the 53 question, the correct answer was 1 par n 1 supp. Reason being the commerical truck (a qualifying vehicle ) was towed (a condition of severity) n that gets the only supp. Although the hazmat placard can be a qualifying vehicle it DID NOT have a condition of severity bc the guy was RMA.had he gone to the hospital that would have been the 2nd supp

nycop80 · Guru

just wondering that is incorrect, if there is one condition of severity for an accident and multiple vehicles are qualifying vehicles, THEY all qualify, re read that section. Therefore, There should be 2 supplements done.

Read 13. above,

-- Edited by nycop80 on Saturday 5th of November 2011 03:23:47 PM

-- Edited by nycop80 on Saturday 5th of November 2011 05:00:06 PM

-- Edited by nycop80 on Saturday 5th of November 2011 05:00:25 PM

-- Edited by nycop80 on Saturday 5th of November 2011 05:01:50 PM

big guy · Senior Member

It was not towed-the cops requested for a tow thats it. Plus its def no reference marker and option for doing 1 supplemental was along with a choice of using the ref marker on the bridge which u wouldnt.

E D · Senior Member

Wondering, you are wrong. If there is one cond of severity, all qualifying vehicles get supps. Fact.
Question is flawed, 100%

NinoBrown · Veteran Member

just wondering wrote:
Your all wrong w the 53 question, the correct answer was 1 par n 1 supp. Reason being the commerical truck (a qualifying vehicle ) was towed (a condition of severity) n that gets the only supp. Although the hazmat placard can be a qualifying vehicle it DID NOT have a condition of severity bc the guy was RMA.had he gone to the hospital that would have been the 2nd supp

You're way off kid, re read that procedure.

BimpGod · Veteran Member

big guy wrote:
It was not towed-the cops requested for a tow thats it. Plus its def no reference marker and option for doing 1 supplemental was along with a choice of using the ref marker on the bridge which u wouldnt.

Does not matter that tow was requested. Authorized tow was requested, but it HAD TO BE TOWED. It had defective brakes. There was no correct answer listed. Should have been 2 PAR (because 3 vehicles) 2 bus supp forms and not using the reference marker. The whole answer was wrong, all said 1 PAR and you needed 2. Guarenteed throwout.

big guy · Senior Member

BimpGod wrote:
big guy wrote:

It was not towed-the cops requested for a tow thats it. Plus its def no reference marker and option for doing 1 supplemental was along with a choice of using the ref marker on the bridge which u wouldnt.

Does not matter that tow was requested. Authorized tow was requested, but it HAD TO BE TOWED. It had defective brakes. There was no correct answer listed. Should have been 2 PAR (because 3 vehicles) 2 bus supp forms and not using the reference marker. The whole answer was wrong, all said 1 PAR and you needed 2. Guarenteed throwout.

PG says for a condition of severity one vehicle was towed for other than a flat tire. Was a vehicle towed technically in this question? No. They requested a tow thats it. Its badly written thats all but technically thereis no condition of severity

PFB · Veteran Member

They were too busy trying to trick everyone with the chest pains and rma that they forgot to put the correct answer choice!!!! NICE JOB DCAS

MN50 · Senior Member

If the tow is requested I think its implied the truck was towed. Did the defect just go away?

big guy · Senior Member

Its implied that it could be towed yes but thats kind of reading into it. If the condition of severity was a tow has to be just requested then fine. But again yes it wasnt clear so dont know if they were trying to get us on a technacality on reading into it, or if it meant for it to fit the condition of severity of a truck being towed. Everyone has a diff interpretation and thats it, wait for the answer key to come out and go from there

JustWonderin · Guru

just wondering wrote:
Your all wrong w the 53 question, the correct answer was 1 par n 1 supp. Reason being the commerical truck (a qualifying vehicle ) was towed (a condition of severity) n that gets the only supp. Although the hazmat placard can be a qualifying vehicle it DID NOT have a condition of severity bc the guy was RMA.had he gone to the hospital that would have been the 2nd supp

IS THIS GUY SERIOUS???

OUT OF ALL THE USER NAMES, HE ADDS A "G" TO MINE??? LOL. I'VE BEEN ON HERE A FEW YEARS NOW....NEWBIE

-- Edited by JustWonderin on Saturday 5th of November 2011 09:08:13 PM

Haterinyou · Veteran Member

ok I was also under impression that 50 qualifying vehicles get in to accident and only one needs towing then only one Supplemental , no?

HB · Senior Member

Haterinyou wrote:
ok I was also under impression that 50 qualifying vehicles get in to accident and only one needs towing then only one Supplemental , no?

Wow this is pg 101. Thats would be 50 supplements needed. One for each qualifying vehicle. I see alot of ppl arguing over the most elementary pg sh!t. If thats the case then that answer key must be all f'd up!

Dying06Lt · Veteran Member

If its anything like the 06 test guys who are in the 500's will get promoted some time in 2015!

sharpie973 · Veteran Member

Dying06Lt wrote:
If its anything like the 06 test guys who are in the 500's will get promoted some time in 2015!

Hey, I am still waiting!

OkeeDokee · Veteran Member

HB wrote:
Haterinyou wrote:
ok I was also under impression that 50 qualifying vehicles get in to accident and only one needs towing then only one Supplemental , no?

Wow this is pg 101. Thats would be 50 supplements needed. One for each qualifying vehicle. I see alot of ppl arguing over the most elementary pg sh!t. If thats the case then that answer key must be all f'd up!

Yes, on the bright side however if this is representative--your list #may not be that bad!

HB · Senior Member

OkeeDokee wrote:
HB wrote:
Haterinyou wrote:
ok I was also under impression that 50 qualifying vehicles get in to accident and only one needs towing then only one Supplemental , no?

Wow this is pg 101. Thats would be 50 supplements needed. One for each qualifying vehicle. I see alot of ppl arguing over the most elementary pg sh!t. If thats the case then that answer key must be all f'd up!
Yes, on the bright side however if this is representative--your list #may not be that bad!

True

Sgtfahlife · Veteran Member

I SAY ABOUT 500

just wondering · Member

Nycop80 I read step 13 n no where on that test did it state someone was doa, n no one was transported to the hospital. Therefore u have a qualifying vehicle but not a condition of severity, which equals no supp. U need a qualifying vehicle n condition of severity to make up a supp.

nycop80 · Guru

but it stated a car was being towed

just wondering · Member

Yes one truck thats a qualifying vehicle n it's condition of severity wad being towed. The hazmat placard is a qualifying veh but its not completed bc it doesn't have a condition of severity since the guy went rma

HB · Senior Member

just wondering wrote:
Yes one truck thats a qualifying vehicle n it's condition of severity wad being towed. The hazmat placard is a qualifying veh but its not completed bc it doesn't have a condition of severity since the guy went rma

Omg stop it already! If u have 2 qualified vehicles and one condition of severity thats all that matters!!!! I cant take these debates of ppl quoting procedures that are ground ball and have no idea what they are talking about!

-- Edited by HB on Sunday 6th of November 2011 05:01:42 AM

OkeeDokee · Veteran Member

HB wrote:
just wondering wrote:
Yes one truck thats a qualifying vehicle n it's condition of severity wad being towed. The hazmat placard is a qualifying veh but its not completed bc it doesn't have a condition of severity since the guy went rma

Omg stop it already! If u have 2 qualified vehicles and one condition of severity thats all that matters!!!! I cant take these debates of ppl quoting procedures that are ground ball and have no ideq what they are talking about!

You should make the list for having understood that post.

-- Edited by OkeeDokee on Sunday 6th of November 2011 05:05:29 AM

just wondering · Member

People just want to justify their answer without looking into the patrol guide

HB · Senior Member

Just wondering YOU are the guy thats not looking in the patrol guide. Read it again

just wondering · Member

For the time being Go w whatever makes u feel better, the final answer will eventually come out. Good luck

HB · Senior Member

The question will be thrown out anyway. All the choices were wrong

OkeeDokee · Veteran Member

just wondering wrote:
For the time being Go w whatever makes u feel better, the final answer will eventually come out. Good luck

Congratulations on passing the Sgt.'s exam. That's amazing.

HB · Senior Member

OkeeDokee wrote:
just wondering wrote:
For the time being Go w whatever makes u feel better, the final answer will eventually come out. Good luck

Congratulations on passing the Sgt.'s exam. That's amazing.

Lmao

just wondering · Member

Okeedokee u must been that one person no one liked has a cop n the only way u can justify your existence in this department is being a boss. Tell me, do u feel better about yourself now? Feel more powerful? Loser snap out of it ! It doesn't change who you are. Oh, by the way, the same goes to your side kick HB!

unborn · Guru

I wish more people remembered which question #'s corresponded to which questions. There were some very tricky questions that I'm pretty sure I got right that I'm marking as wrong. If we all put our heads together we could probably improve this key.

-- Edited by unborn on Sunday 6th of November 2011 02:39:43 PM