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cat · Senior Member

RE: july class confirm

Phil Atio · Senior Member

so the 5 year wonders can have their stripes and hash marks sewn on at the same time and save a trip to the cleaners.

RumorMill · Veteran Member

I always have faith in Cat and hope she is right. But I was told today that Iam not going in next class and I am in the 340's. They said 70 go in and 55 of those are 5 years wonders. So it looks like 330's. That comes from an inside source. But I hope Cat is right.

iamlegend · Veteran Member

well guys, next wednesday june, 24 the truth will be told... can we just be happy that this thing is moving along at least...

on a much happier note, for the first three years a rookie SGT is making about $200-$300 dollars more than a top-cop. it is only after the fourth year that you finally get a real raise of 17,000. because of this i personally know two guys with over 15 years on who are passing up the promotion. so for you guys getting made don't forget to thank the SBA speakers...

cat · Senior Member

what are their list numbers? (The one's passing the position over)

BXCOPPER33 · Senior Member

So up to what number will they be up to after this next class?...

Phil Atio · Senior Member

Rumor mill, your #s are 100% incorrect. Either your source is toying with you, or perhaps you are just making **** up.

up to list #314 there are a total of 22 people that were skipped due to time AND become eligible July 1st, and some of them may have things pending that they can not be promoted anyway.

including those previous 22 (listed above), up to list #500 there are an additional 15 skipped due to time, that become eligible July 1st, TOTALING 37 skipped due to TIME. This does not mean they will be promoted, as there are people ahead of them on the list that still havent been reached but are eligible. Remember, the 37 skipped due to time is only up to list #500.

there are an additional 22 that were skipped over and not promoted SO FAR due to various reasons, college, jammed, turned it down, etc. and they do have to go back and see if they are eligible now...they are as follows:

Of those 22 skipped for different reasons over the past few months,
15 were skipped BMOCs #1/2/3/4/5
2 were reached on the 3rd BMOC and skipped for BMOCs #3/4/5
2 were reached on the 4th BMOC and skipped for BMOCs #4/5
3 were reached on the 5th BMOC and skipped for BMOC #5 only.

BXCOPPER33 · Senior Member

SO PHIL IS IT SAFE TO SAY IF YOU ARE UNDER LIST #150 AND YOU HIT 5 YRS JULY 1ST WITH EVERYTHING ELSE BEING GOOD THAT I WOULD BE IN NEXT CLASS?

NOTAGAIN · Veteran Member

Phil Atio wrote:

Rumor mill, your #s are 100% incorrect. Either your source is toying with you, or perhaps you are just making **** up.

up to list #314 there are a total of 22 people that were skipped due to time AND become eligible July 1st, and some of them may have things pending that they can not be promoted anyway.

including those previous 22 (listed above), up to list #500 there are an additional 15 skipped due to time, that become eligible July 1st, TOTALING 37 skipped due to TIME. This does not mean they will be promoted, as there are people ahead of them on the list that still havent been reached but are eligible. Remember, the 37 skipped due to time is only up to list #500.

there are an additional 22 that were skipped over and not promoted SO FAR due to various reasons, college, jammed, turned it down, etc. and they do have to go back and see if they are eligible now...they are as follows:

Of those 22 skipped for different reasons over the past few months,
15 were skipped BMOCs #1/2/3/4/5
2 were reached on the 3rd BMOC and skipped for BMOCs #3/4/5
2 were reached on the 4th BMOC and skipped for BMOCs #4/5
3 were reached on the 5th BMOC and skipped for BMOC #5 only.

To sum it all up what does this mean?

StopTheMadness · Newbie

Phil Atio wrote:

Rumor mill, your #s are 100% incorrect. Either your source is toying with you, or perhaps you are just making **** up.

up to list #314 there are a total of 22 people that were skipped due to time AND become eligible July 1st, and some of them may have things pending that they can not be promoted anyway.

including those previous 22 (listed above), up to list #500 there are an additional 15 skipped due to time, that become eligible July 1st, TOTALING 37 skipped due to TIME. This does not mean they will be promoted, as there are people ahead of them on the list that still havent been reached but are eligible. Remember, the 37 skipped due to time is only up to list #500.

there are an additional 22 that were skipped over and not promoted SO FAR due to various reasons, college, jammed, turned it down, etc. and they do have to go back and see if they are eligible now...they are as follows:

Of those 22 skipped for different reasons over the past few months,
15 were skipped BMOCs #1/2/3/4/5
2 were reached on the 3rd BMOC and skipped for BMOCs #3/4/5
2 were reached on the 4th BMOC and skipped for BMOCs #4/5
3 were reached on the 5th BMOC and skipped for BMOC #5 only.

Phil- Where did you get you're numbers from? Just asking- went down the list- checked those that have been promoted, passed over due to TIME and the rest that were passed over for whatever other reason. Though my numbers me be off by 1 or 2 or maybe even 3 or 4- they're definitely not close to what you have.

Going up to list # 314:
22 will reach their time in January of 2010
About 55-57 Reach their time July 1
and about 12-14 were passed over for other reasons.

Someone stated earlier that 253 resigned- double checked and he did...
so though my #'s may be off by a few here and there, they are no where near what you got.

where did you get your #'s from? hmm

RumorMill · Veteran Member

Sorry man its true. Wish it wasnt but it is. You are the only one who doesnt want to accept this.

STAMINA · Veteran Member

Someone who scored in the 80's was on sick last week and the surgeon called to tell him to come back full duty if he wants to get promoted next week. he makes 5 yrs on 7/01/09

july hopeful · Member

STAMINA wrote:

Someone who scored in the 80's was on sick last week and the surgeon called to tell him to come back full duty if he wants to get promoted next week. he makes 5 yrs on 7/01/09

I heard the same thing

BXCOPPER33 · Senior Member

So how many 5 yr guys are making it in this class? ...everyone of them that was passed over till what score?

3AZNCOPS · Veteran Member

3AZNCOPS wrote:

There are 15 people from list #1-314 that were passed over for whatever reason (modified, suspended, credits, etc) that had over 5 years.

There are 52 people who will hit their 5 year mark on 7/1/09 and 2 people will hit their 5 year mark on 7/9/09.

That makes it a total of 54 people who were passed over because of time.

So far 69 people from list #1-314 are waiting to be promoted.

3AZNCOPS · Veteran Member

These are the List#s and Start Date of people who are waiting to be promoted minus the 1/10/10 class.

List#	Start Date	List#	Start Date	List#	Start Date
7	07/01/04	116	07/01/04	246	07/01/04
12	07/01/03	123	07/02/01	249	04/15/97
16	07/01/04	126	07/01/04	250	07/01/04
17	07/01/04	128	07/01/04	251	08/31/98
18	07/01/04	129	07/01/04	256	07/01/04
20	07/01/04	130	07/01/04	257	07/01/04
27	07/01/04	131	08/30/93	260	07/01/02
28	07/01/04	142	07/01/02	281	07/01/04
29	07/01/04	148	07/01/04	286	07/01/04
30	07/01/04	157	07/01/04	287	08/31/98
31	07/01/04	158	07/01/04	288	01/20/04
32	03/01/00	160	07/01/04	301	07/01/04
39	07/01/04	161	07/01/04	302	07/01/04
40	07/01/03	162	07/01/04	303	07/01/04
44	07/01/04	163	07/01/04	304	07/01/04
45	07/01/04	164	07/09/04	305	07/01/04
56	07/01/04	165	07/01/04	306	07/01/04
57	07/01/04	190	07/01/04
58	09/10/98	193	07/01/04
59	07/02/01	194	07/01/98
65	07/01/01	203	07/01/04
74	07/01/04	205	07/01/04
84	07/01/04	206	07/09/04
96	07/01/04	207	07/01/04
99	07/01/04	208	07/01/04
100	07/01/04	234	07/01/04

3AZNCOPS · Veteran Member

These are the ones that get their 5th on 1/10/10

List# Start Date
10 01/10/05
23 01/10/05
24 01/10/05
26 01/10/05
42 01/10/05
50 01/10/05
54 01/10/05
60 01/10/05
66 01/10/05
67 01/10/05
80 01/10/05
88 01/10/05
89 01/10/05
90 01/10/05
91 01/10/05
92 01/10/05
93 01/10/05
97 01/10/05
115 01/10/05
118 01/10/05
187 01/10/05
188 01/10/05
189 01/10/05
285 01/10/05

iamlegend · Veteran Member

Splendid job 3AZNCOPS i just check your list, everything is true, so if the class is going in June 29 that means list # 164, 206 wont make it...

july hopeful · Member

iamlegend wrote:

Splendid job 3AZNCOPS i just check your list, everything is true, so if the class is going in June 29 that means list # 164, 206 wont make it...

why wouldn't they make it? You have to hit five by the time bmoc is OVER

iamlegend · Veteran Member

i stand corrected...

Bmoc09 · Senior Member

how many passed the test from jan 2005 class? how many of them are before list #636? thanks

3AZNCOPS · Veteran Member

Including #636 is 63 with 01/10/10
but there are 2 people with a start date of 07/14/05 that is in the 500s that is not included in the 63. I have no idea how they could have taken the exam and get a list # when they did not have 3 years at the date of the exam. Their 3rd year anniversary would have been 07/14/08 and the exam was in 01/08. Who knows....maybe they resigned/retired and came back on the job and passed the exam but they have to be on the job for 3 consecutive years before they can be promoted.

cat · Senior Member

I have # 126 already called and #12, #130 someone please help me out I don't know why, but I do if they was on two lists or some other reason.(many of the ppl in that list was called already) someone correct me if I am wrong, but look at the finest messages.

Look at all the finest messages.

-- Edited by cat on Tuesday 23rd of June 2009 02:16:31 PM

-- Edited by cat on Tuesday 23rd of June 2009 02:20:14 PM

-- Edited by cat on Tuesday 23rd of June 2009 02:33:05 PM

cat · Senior Member

List# Start Date
08 01/10/05
10 01/10/05
23 01/10/05
24 01/10/05
26 01/10/05
42 01/10/05
50 01/10/05
54 01/10/05
60 01/10/05
66 01/10/05
67 01/10/05
80 01/10/05
88 01/10/05
89 01/10/05
90 01/10/05
91 01/10/05
92 01/10/05
93 01/10/05
97 01/10/05
115 01/10/05
118 01/10/05
187 01/10/05
188 01/10/05
189 01/10/05
285 01/10/05

iamlegend · Veteran Member

-- Edited by iamlegend on Tuesday 23rd of June 2009 03:14:09 PM

iamlegend · Veteran Member

CAT wrote:

I have # 126 already called and #12, #130 someone please help me out I don't know why, but I do if they was on two lists or some other reason.(many of the ppl in that list was called already) someone correct me if I am wrong, but look at the finest messages.
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cat sweetie take a deep breath list # 126, 12, 130, are still P.O'S

The only mistake i found so far with 3AZNCOPS list is that list # 16 start time is not 07/01/04 and list # 60 start time is 07/01/04 also he might be missing 172, 185...

NOTAGAIN · Veteran Member

What list # are they promoting to?

3AZNCOPS · Veteran Member

iamlegend wrote:

CAT wrote:

I have # 126 already called and #12, #130 someone please help me out I don't know why, but I do if they was on two lists or some other reason.(many of the ppl in that list was called already) someone correct me if I am wrong, but look at the finest messages.
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cat sweetie take a deep breath list # 126, 12, 130, are still P.O'S

The only mistake i found so far with 3AZNCOPS list is that list # 16 start time is not 07/01/04 and list # 60 start time is 07/01/04 also he might be missing 172, 185...

I believe #116 started 07/01/04 because there is only 1 person in this department with that name and he/she started on that date. I could be wrong.

List# 60 is 07/01/04, I made a mistake because there are 2 people in this dept that has the same name and I thought it was the other one.

List#172 was promoted on 09/28/08

List#185 was promoted on 04/24/09

luckysaturdayplease · Veteran Member

#16 did start 7/01/04...... #60 is apart of the 7/1/04 class that would make 55 total from the july 04 people..........which would seem to go with cats 55 going in.....

3AZNCOPS · Veteran Member

iamlegend wrote:

CAT wrote:

I have # 126 already called and #12, #130 someone please help me out I don't know why, but I do if they was on two lists or some other reason.(many of the ppl in that list was called already) someone correct me if I am wrong, but look at the finest messages.
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cat sweetie take a deep breath list # 126, 12, 130, are still P.O'S

The only mistake i found so far with 3AZNCOPS list is that list # 16 start time is not 07/01/04 and list # 60 start time is 07/01/04 also he might be missing 172, 185...

List#12 is a Det
List #126 and #130 are still POs

BROOKLYN COP · Newbie

Guys and gals, thanks for all of your invaluable information. Such had helped me understand where the way this Department run through the list(s). However, I'm still not sure as to what list # are they going to stop for this coming June 29 class. Is it at 163? 165? 190? Thanks in advance.

BROOKLYN COP · Newbie

Guys and gals, thanks for all of your invaluable information. Such has helped me understand the way this Department run through the list(s). However, I'm still not sure as to what list # they are going to stop for this coming June 29 class. Is it at 163? 165? 190? 193? Thanks in advance.

PS,...Sorry for the earlier post,...lol,...that's what happens when people do not proof read.
Thanks again

WOW · Veteran Member

You guys are better off trying to figure out the meaning of life....stop driving yourselves nuts and relax. Your time will come...maybe. I have an idea!!! Get a life. hahahaha....maybe get a few friends or something...it will occupy the time you have to wait to get promoted...cuz getting promoted is the most important thing in the whole entire world. Or so you would think from reading this nonsense. Take a deep breath!!

Phil Atio · Senior Member

rumor mill is an IKE--- I KNOW EVERYTHING

RumorMill · Veteran Member

bla bla

STAMINA · Veteran Member

If history repeats itself the finest should be down today after 1700 hrs. If anyone is working during that time, please post the info on the board when it comes down.
Good luck to all

-- Edited by STAMINA on Wednesday 24th of June 2009 11:00:39 AM

iamlegend · Veteran Member

late last night from msrt they are going past list 288 and up stay tune boys and girls

-- Edited by iamlegend on Wednesday 24th of June 2009 12:40:14 PM

ipyb4u · Veteran Member

Finest message day

Intouch · Veteran Member

question does anybody know when the next bmoc class will go in?

people have been telling me that no class is given in July/ Aug. is that true?

luckysaturdayplease · Veteran Member

finest came down 1500 hours, call your commands....looks like they went upto 306 with the 5year guys.

-- Edited by luckysaturdayplease on Wednesday 24th of June 2009 07:35:35 PM

STAMINA · Veteran Member

Intouch wrote:

question does anybody know when the next bmoc class will go in?

people have been telling me that no class is given in July/ Aug. is that true?

i heard usually there isnt anothe bmoc until sept due to instructors taking vacation in the summer.

-- Edited by STAMINA on Wednesday 24th of June 2009 08:53:27 PM

NOTAGAIN · Veteran Member

How many total???

HOUSINGDIVA · Veteran Member

55

NOTAGAIN · Veteran Member

HOUSINGDIVA wrote:

55

THANKS

iamlegend · Veteran Member

HOUSINGDIVA check your, pm

HOUSINGDIVA · Veteran Member

GOT IT!!

CarRamrod · Member

Can someone pm me the list going in please? thanks

natou · Senior Member

pm me plesea anyone.

signmy28 · Veteran Member

Can someone pm me also the list going in please? thanks i wanna see if an old friend made it...not sure of the list #

NOTAGAIN · Veteran Member

CarRamrod wrote:

Can someone pm me the list going in please? thanks

For what reasons do you need to know except to be NOSEY. As stated they promoted up to 306 and with the info supplied if your list# is anything after #306, "YOU AINT GETTING PROMOTED FOR THE JULY BMOC"

Just accept it for what it is.