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Xchris176 · Senior Member

10th Bmoc Class

Cucklord9 · Member

Anyone know what # they up to

No63foryou · Member

They got up List No. 614.

Anik136 · Member

614

BestJobEva · Member

Roughly 40 names out! This is gonna be a long month lol

Thecolikesmen · Member

Lets get that updated list!!

Jobsded · Veteran Member

Lets hope they dont sign this month less than 25 away.

Cucklord9 · Member

Anyone have a rough idea of what number theyll get up to with another class of 75?

Jobsded · Veteran Member

690

bben4567 · Veteran Member

Im guessing March 31st this month. Based off of last year

Rugz · Veteran Member

Does anyone know of POs that get promoted before top pay do they go to step 5 or top pay Sgt?

BestJobEva · Member

bben4567 wrote:
Im guessing March 31st this month. Based off of last year

Someone in the LTs thread posted all the tentative promotion dates for the year, March 29th is the tentative next date.

tomSGT2022 · Veteran Member

As of right now it would be 695-696 if everyone goes through, people always get passed over for any reason though (and there are list #s already promoted)

If they sign there will be larger classes. Because they will save tens of thousands of dollars on each new sgt. Rank is short atm (compared to p.o)

Rugz · Veteran Member

No one knows the answer? To my question?

BestJobEva · Member

Rugz wrote:
No one knows the answer? To my question?

Im pretty sure if youre not a top pay cop, you will not be brought to top pay Sgt

Lionel22 · Senior Member

I think it depends on where they are as far as pay . i Honestly dont know the numbers for PO but if 5 year PO is at the step before last for sgt , then yes they will go to top pay . basically the way it works is you make more than your previous rank . Detectives got screwed in the past that Werent top pay detectives because guys who werent top pay got stuck at the 4th step because they realized a pay bump even tho it was like $40 more it was a pay bump.

Lionel22 · Senior Member

Guys are going straight to top pay now because whatever the step before last step is for sgt as long as you make more than that you go to top pay . I know it sounds confusing but thats the best way k can explain it . Hope it helps !

DetectorEfector · Member

If you are not a top pay cop, if you get promoted you will be a step 1 sergeant. After 5 years a PO pay is $62,872. With longevity and differential pay $79,329. A step one sergeants pay is $96,017. The only reason people are going to top pay is because a top pay cop makes more then a step 5 sergeant, therefore they have to put you at step 6 which is top pay.

Taketheday · Guru

Rugz wrote:
No one knows the answer? To my question?

Basically it depends on what the pay rate is for a 5 year cop not at top pay. The current SGT pay steps are basically 96,000 for steps 1-3 $105,000 for step 4 and then $118,000 Last step which is too pay.

If the 5 year salary is more than $96,000 and 105,000 than that cop will go to top pay. If its less than 105,000 but more than $96,000 than that cop will not go to top pay But will go to step 4 If its less than both $96,000 and $105,000 that that cop will go to current step 1 which is $96,000

Lionel22 · Senior Member

Taketheday wrote:
Rugz wrote:
No one knows the answer? To my question?
Basically it depends on what the pay rate is for a 5 year cop not at top pay. The current SGT pay steps are basically 96,000 for steps 1-3 $105,000 for step 4 and then $118,000 Last step which is too pay.
If the 5 year salary is more than $96,000 and 105,000 than that cop will go to top pay. If its less than 105,000 but more than $96,000 than that cop will not go to top pay But will go to step 4 If its less than both $96,000 and $105,000 that that cop will go to current step 1 which is $96,000

yep he explained it better

Jobsded · Veteran Member

Next Sba meeting is 3/21. Doubt they have a contract ratified by the next class. But who knows these days.

Rugz · Veteran Member

So if Im a cop that got promoted yesterday I had 5yr 1 month- I guess Im at base pay Sgt?

Taketheday · Guru

Rugz wrote:
So if Im a cop that got promoted yesterday I had 5yr 1 month- I guess Im at base pay Sgt?

Idk what the current Base salary is for a 5 Year cop if its less than $96,000 than most likely you will go to Step 1 base pay SGT which is $96,000. Im not saying Defer depending on your situation but I would strongly consider it if Financially it makes sense.

Jobsded · Veteran Member

I agree I dont think youll be top pay.

Jobsded · Veteran Member

But if you defer 5 months and they sign before that you just wasted all that time. Do we think this will take 5 more months, I doubt it.

Taketheday · Guru

Jobsded wrote:
But if you defer 5 months and they sign before that you just wasted all that time. Do we think this will take 5 more months, I doubt it.

I wouldn't be shocked if it did the way this Union is so poorly run

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

Jobsded wrote:
But if you defer 5 months and they sign before that you just wasted all that time. Do we think this will take 5 more months, I doubt it.

Vince mentioned Christmas time. They are going to wait until next PO raise most likely.

For those only at 5 years, get promoted now or gamble for the chance of making an additional 100k.

I would personally would wait, and if they settle before then, then what did you really lose? 3 months in seniority?

tomSGT2022 · Veteran Member

So im just confused as to what the hold up is (im sure like all SBA members). But it greatly affects some of us who really need a big class when they ratify the contract. Last time they ratified a contract the very first class after that was around 150 (correct me if im wrong).

Is it the 12 hour tours? Pay? Or chart time. Just so odd how it took so long despite literally every other union settling. I doubt this has happened before with a single union other than PO.

Tunit · Senior Member

tomSGT2022 wrote:
So im just confused as to what the hold up is (im sure like all SBA members). But it greatly affects some of us who really need a big class when they ratify the contract. Last time they ratified a contract the very first class after that was around 150 (correct me if im wrong).

Is it the 12 hour tours? Pay? Or chart time. Just so odd how it took so long despite literally every other union settling. I doubt this has happened before with a single union other than PO.

It seems that theyre trying to negotiate a formal agreement to prevent sergeants from ever getting paid less than their subordinates again. Theyve been very transparent in saying 12 hr tours are off the table and SBA will not be doing them. They were also clear when stating the pay raises have already been agreed to and cannot be adjusted at all.

Passit100 · Senior Member

Ok but the cops willb doin 12hr tours how's that gunna work the sgts still doin 8:57?

Spanish mama · Guru

Passit100 wrote:
Ok but the cops willb doin 12hr tours how's that gunna work the sgts still doin 8:57?

It's going to work like a circus.

Lionel22 · Senior Member

Passit100 wrote:
Ok but the cops willb doin 12hr tours how's that gunna work the sgts still doin 8:57?

Its working now in transit . They cover 2 platoons . It sounds confusion but theyre doing it

Passit100 · Senior Member

Lionel22 wrote:
Passit100 wrote:
Ok but the cops willb doin 12hr tours how's that gunna work the sgts still doin 8:57?
Its working now in transit . They cover 2 platoons . It sounds confusion but theyre doing it

Oooooo I c

candr35 · Newbie

The sgts work 1st,2nd and 3rd platoons.day tours just show up everything is already done for them. (Roll call and turn out the cops bc of the start of tour time), 4 by sgt have the most work, you do the 1500 10 hour tour roll call, the 1800 and 1900 roll calls as well. Then the midnights come in to just transition into already finalized roll calls, but at 0630 they turn out the day tours. Its confusing but its been going this way for almost a year for a lot of Bronx commands.

Topgun27 · Newbie

Does anyone know if a brand new CCRB allegation would hold up promotion for next class?

Jobsded · Veteran Member

You wont be Held up.

Cucklord9 · Member

Anyone got any updates regarding how many goin in in march?

bben4567 · Veteran Member

I cant take you seriously with that profile name lol

Pelcha · Senior Member

75 as of now , like anything in the Nypd. it could change from today till end of the month. remember March is a long month guys be very patient!!

-- Edited by Pelcha on Saturday 2nd of March 2024 11:27:23 AM

A10shun · Senior Member

75 is great! How about Lts?

Pelcha · Senior Member

50 Lts they going to start slowing it down if the numbers change Ill let you guys know

Passit100 · Senior Member

Pelcha wrote:
50 Lts they going to start slowing it down if the numbers change Ill let you guys know

As long as they keep churning out LTS should be in a good spot

Nypdboss0722 · Veteran Member

How do you know you will get Carb?
And what is it for ?

Jobsded · Veteran Member

If you dont think u Have to go odds are you dont.

Lionel22 · Senior Member

Early numbers are 50 LTS , 50 SGTS .

I Believe the Lt numbers wont change much . Sgt numbers I believe will go up to the 75 its been for every promo

As always its very very early so its subject to change.

Most importantly be safe , and continue being patient.

Anik136 · Member

Thank you

Papi825 · Senior Member

Nypdboss0722 wrote:
How do you know you will get Carb?
And what is it for ?

Call Risk Management. They will clarify any of those questions.

-- Edited by Papi825 on Wednesday 6th of March 2024 06:20:48 AM

Chronic_Z · Member

Papi825 wrote:
Nypdboss0722 wrote:
How do you know you will get Carb?
And what is it for ?
Call Risk Management. They will clarify any of those questions.

-- Edited by Papi825 on Wednesday 6th of March 2024 06:20:48 AM

Best advice! they can tell you if you have a hold. I was told that any penalty needs a disposition, and you'll only be carbed if the penalty is more than 10 days. however that was 2 years ago and I think the job is not giving as much weight to ccrb charges, but you still need to get OK'd to get promoted.

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

20 days or more as of a month ago.

Xchris176 · Senior Member

Lionel22 wrote:
Early numbers are 50 LTS , 50 SGTS .

I Believe the Lt numbers wont change much . Sgt numbers I believe will go up to the 75 its been for every promo

As always its very very early so its subject to change.

Most importantly be safe , and continue being patient.

Thank you!! ILWT