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TenFour16 · Guru

January 2021

20n0ut · Veteran Member

Is there a January tentative date?

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

Now you get to speculate if, when, and how many for January.

gmen18 · Senior Member

not trying to be a downer just not optimistic about January because seems like city hall didnt want to do even a December until the job figured something out budget wise last minute

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

With the amount of bosses leaving the job, they will have to be replaced to a certain degree. I expect a January BMOC. Let's just hope I'm right.

Ticonderoga · Senior Member

I heard from my borough, there is a January date of 1/28. But that's what they heard from someone else. Unverified.

There was no net gain of SGT's since they promoted 50 LT's also. Makes sense to do another SGT group soon and maybe not LT's

-- Edited by Ticonderoga on Saturday 19th of December 2020 01:47:54 PM

TenFour16 · Guru

To me, the hiring of the 50 Sgts this class was only and strictly done because the job was so short on Lts. So that hole of 50 Sgts needed to be filled. But that would create a month of no new Sgts and a month of more retirements. I think we may see a class to start the year especially if they want to try and finish this list. Even if its a class of 50. The good thing is BMOCs are much shorter now. So we will have news much quicker then before when they had this mentoring nonsense going on which basically made bmoc 2 months.

Truthseeker · Guru

Stop looking into this. Your biggest battle isnt vacancies or dept needs, its the BUDGET. So if you want to track something, track a stimulus package giving city money. Everything else doesnt mean much right now

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

Truthseeker wrote:
Stop looking into this. Your biggest battle isnt vacancies or dept needs, its the BUDGET. So if you want to track something, track a stimulus package giving city money. Everything else doesnt mean much right now

I keep saying this too. I know most of us are Republican (as I am), but a Biden win almost assures us a bailout. Say whatever you want, but its at least something we can be happy about.

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

If you think any of that bailout money is going to law enforcement, you're crazy.

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

Itll go to the city, I assure you some of it will go the law enforcement.

-- Edited by GangGreenMets on Saturday 19th of December 2020 03:46:20 PM

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

the mayor talks a lot of ****, but at the end of the day he needs us, he knows he needs us, and he's going to fund us. He's just not going to publicize it. Lowering crime is one of those things that throwing more cops at works.

20n0ut · Veteran Member

Anyone have tentative promotion dates for 2021

TenFour16 · Guru

I completely agree. Thats one thing that has always rung true. In the end, the mayor can say what he wants but history has proven that when **** hits the fan they always end up funding us, especially when we have a rise in crime.

20Nout · Veteran Member

Lets pray for a big class in Jan (75) at least. Fingers crossed
Truthseeker thank you again

Noice · Senior Member

I believe this class was a placeholder because they desperately need lts. A lot of instructors have vacation this week, so they didnt have the man power to field two tours. My prediction is 100 for January, 50 day tour 50 night tour.

gmen18 · Senior Member

while i want to believe that. i dont think they picked numbers based on instructors having vacation. it was picked because of budget. now we need to hope city hall tells the job there is budget money for more promos. its sad we need their approval but that is the reality now

Truthseeker · Guru

Haha lol sorry I laughed reading that noice. Trust me the class size has nothing to do w instructors vacations

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

They stopped promoting when they cut the head count and stopped hiring. When did they start promoting again? When they started hiring again. Theres gonna be 900 more recruits over the next 2 months. Theres going to be more promotions but youre not seeing another 142 man class. Get used to 50-60

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

Yeah that 140 was because we were in dire straights. Itll be a more normal BMOC class from now on.

Rubirosa · Veteran Member

Lets just hope that they keep moving the list even if it is 50 at the time. Imo I think that there will be another big class in January, Again just my opinion.

TransitJoe · Senior Member

So is upfront sgt promotions the new norm?

MovinOut · Veteran Member

I heard today that this upcoming class of 50 LTs is the last LT promotion for a little bit (few months, maybe?). Wondering if anybody else heard the same. Maybe it would explain all the questions of not filling any sergeant vacancies with this upcoming group. I dunno. Heard sergeant promos will continue steadily. Looking for confirmation from the credible ones...

mike16 · Senior Member

They literally promoted 87 Sgts in the last two classes in terms of filling the vacancies. (142+50)-(55+50)=192-105=87. That still leaves us with a lot of sgt vacancies. So, sgt promotions should continue every month unless they want to do something unusual which is a common trend in this Dept. They might go for smaller 50-person bmoc every month.

yougonow · Guru

I heard 50 promos per month for next few months until the summer slowdown. Unverified info, just office chatter.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

anyone have the promotion dates?

Eastshore14 · Member

Do you think they will clear this whole list honestly

cop · Senior Member

There are two years left on avg the Dept promotes 400-609 sgt a year so I think list will go 2100 minim to 2400 max just guessing no insight here. The only thing is the city spent tons of money making this list as long as it is so one never knows. If they promote 50 every month thats 600 and they typically stop during the summer.

Futureauxiliary · Guru

The list is halfway complete. As long as they do 600 a year they will finish the whole list. Theres about 80-100 people on the list that arent with the dept anymore. Those number will likely rise within the next 2 years os this list.

mrmonday · Senior Member

Everybody will get made because many people that are on the list moved on to other places

Futureauxiliary · Guru

delete

-- Edited by Futureauxiliary on Thursday 24th of December 2020 01:22:47 PM

machine · Senior Member

As of today, 12/24/2020, no bmoc classes scheduled for January yet.

source=bmoc class.

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

They usually don't say anything to the current BMOC class until they're almost finished.

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

These days it seems as though decisions about another BMOC arent made until the last possible minute.

gmen18 · Senior Member

any idea wat the tentative promo dates are at least?

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

Merry Christmas everyone, January starts the new year of guesses when the next BMOC will be.

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

More questions about the whole list being made..lol Merry Christmas!

-- Edited by GangGreenMets on Friday 25th of December 2020 11:33:53 AM

-- Edited by GangGreenMets on Friday 25th of December 2020 12:15:42 PM

making dcas great again · Senior Member

Merry Christmas everyone, I think once we find out the tentative schedule promotions for 2021 it will give us a good idea

yougonow · Guru

Merry Christmas fellow listers!

Dahomeless1 · Senior Member

Merry Christmas Everyone.

narco26 · Senior Member

Call me a Guru and EDP thats fine rumors are the city might have a hiring freeze for about 6 months. They said one more sgt class and no classes until July or August of 21. Take for what you want I know by saying this everyone is going to start attacking me but that came from city hall directly.

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

www.newsday.com/news/new-york/nypd-police-academy-recruits-dermot-shea-1.50092277

Directly contradicts your post

Stuntman5 · Veteran Member

STFU narco

-- Edited by Stuntman5 on Sunday 27th of December 2020 07:42:24 PM

narco26 · Senior Member

Just what I heard dont kill the messenger

Truthseeker · Guru

The 3 percent savings in the budget probably wont help promotion rates

MovinOut · Veteran Member

What do you mean?

Truthseeker · Guru

www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2020/12/22/de-blasio-orders-city-agencies-to-come-up-with-budget-cuts-as-fiscal-uncertainty-looms-1349779

Doesnt necessarily effect promotions but most certainly will not help it

-- Edited by Truthseeker on Sunday 27th of December 2020 09:39:07 PM

Futureauxiliary · Guru

They might as-well put auxiliaries at this point to work 8:35 for free.

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

Don't you love it when people post stupid **** just to annoy people?

narco26 · Senior Member

Everyone needs to relax thats what a good friend of mine who works at city hall said. There will be major budget cuts coming do you know how much the city is losing everyday with tax revenue. The NYPD in the past years has learned to do more with less, do you think they care about crime etc. they dont.