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Oooh-yeah · Senior Member

When is the List coming out?

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

I would say thats about right kool-aid. Last I heard there were about 29 Lt vacancies. And there are still about 20 or so guys on the 2015 Lt that are still waiting to get made. So I dont see a dire need for the list to come out. Remember there were a ton of lt vacancies at the height of the 2015 lt exam debacle and things didnt implode. Anyone with patrol time knows sgts aka frontline supervisors are the ones who really keep the job from falling apart. And we have a ton of sgts at the moment

FranknBeans · Senior Member

No one knows. It's civil service so you know they're gonna drag their feet. Just enjoy passing at this point and let it play out.

brooklynbacon · Guru

My guess is april with the first class in may.

ManHands · Senior Member

No way this list is established later than March. 29 Vacancies with one class left in almost 6 months come March. When this list is established expect the first 70-100 names to be promoted by the time summer is over.

The list will be established in Feb with the first class in March.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

brooklynbacon wrote:
My guess is april with the first class in may.

Thats sounds probable. We shall see

brooklynbacon · Guru

ManHands wrote:
No way this list is established later than March. 29 Vacancies with one class left in almost 6 months come March. When this list is established expect the first 70-100 names to be promoted by the time summer is over.

The list will be established in Feb with the first class in March.

Tell that to the sgts waiting 8 months on an exhausted list.

PD2FD · Guru

brooklynbacon wrote:
ManHands wrote:
No way this list is established later than March. 29 Vacancies with one class left in almost 6 months come March. When this list is established expect the first 70-100 names to be promoted by the time summer is over.

The list will be established in Feb with the first class in March.
Tell that to the sgts waiting 8 months on an exhausted list.

That's true, but there's no shortage or need for Sergeants right now. The 2013 Sgts list took 8 months to be established, so what's happening now isn't out of the ordinary.

Creatine · Veteran Member

I dont know the answer but the question we should be asking is how long it usually takes for a new list to be established after the old one has been exhausted.

-- Edited by Creatine on Tuesday 31st of October 2017 04:11:37 PM

brooklynbacon · Guru

Creatine wrote:
I dont know the answer but the question we should be asking is how long it usually takes for a new list to be established after the old one has been exhausted.

-- Edited by Creatine on Tuesday 31st of October 2017 04:11:37 PM

Most of the time new lists are established while old ones are still active.

Whats going on with with the sgt and lt list now is not the norm.

Creatine · Veteran Member

True. It took the department a while to realize that it makes no sense for the four year life of a new list to begin while there is an active list.

Now more people can get promoted from each list.

4th Time · Senior Member

Has anyone requested a FIOL to Mr. Deteuch to ascertain if there are any holdovers from the last test?

DRPapi1983 · Guru

4th Time wrote:
Has anyone requested a FIOL to Mr. Deteuch to ascertain if there are any holdovers from the last test?

You mean FOIL,..Im pretty sure some people are on top of that

Blue Pig · Veteran Member

Would DCAS answer a request to how many protest they have received? I know other people have been successful asking DCAS questions

brooklynbacon · Guru

I heard theyre releasing it during red easter.

Marc37 · Member

I sent a FOIL request yesterday still waiting for an answer.. Ill let you guys know when I get it

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Marc37 wrote:
I sent a FOIL request yesterday still waiting for an answer.. Ill let you guys know when I get it

Thank you

20yrSentence · Senior Member

Anyone hear anything new about the list???

sig226 · Senior Member

Sniffendickz give us some info

A10shun · Senior Member

Dcas is ****. Its been 10 months for the sgt list and still nothing.

monkeybones · Senior Member

Im hearing April fools day to be exact.... no im not, because no one knows jack sheeeeetz

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

I would hope the list comes out earlier than as the last time I checked we were at 44 Lt vacancies but with dcas you never know. 10plus months for a sgt list to come out is ridiculious.

Oooh-yeah · Senior Member

I'm not sure why the Sgt's list is held up. I'm thinking it has to do with the pay scale issue people are talking about (PO to Sgt) and perhaps because the PC promoted everyone on the 2013 in order to take the Lt's exam creating a lack of demand for Sgts at this time. I'm hoping what's going on with the Sgt's exam is not the case with our exam...

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

Maybe your right kool-aid..except for lack of demand. Last time i check there were 70 sgt vacancies...so the openings are there.

Oooh-yeah · Senior Member

yeah I don't get intel on the vacancies. You would know better on that I was just judging from what I see within my command, we had a wave of new Sgt's from the bottom of the 2013 exam

JustWonderin · Guru

DRPapi1983 wrote:
brooklynbacon wrote:
My guess is april with the first class in may.
Thats sounds probable. We shall see

Great input as usual DRPAPI

monkeybones · Senior Member

Damn everyones crushing DrPapi.... cant we all just get along lol

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

Drpapi's info is useless. I dont know about you guys but with all this nonsense going on with dcas and the sgt list...i wouldnt expect a Lt list to come out until aug or sept. By that time there will probably be 100 or so Lt vacancies.

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

You would think dcas is still using the same stick count method they used in the 1980s. Hey dcas its 2017!

Flatbread King · Veteran Member

The longer it takes, the better it is for everyone on the bottom half of the list. Be patient and enjoy being a Sergeant. Everyone still says it's the most fun rank on the job.

FranknBeans · Senior Member

The best rank on this job is Mister nor Ms/Mrs.

CanIbeYourCorey · Member

Corey says..... "best rank on the job is POF." biggrin

-- Edited by CanIbeYourCorey on Tuesday 26th of December 2017 11:21:59 PM

brooklynbacon · Guru

CanIbeYourCorey wrote:
Corey says..... "best rank on the job is POF."

-- Edited by CanIbeYourCorey on Tuesday 26th of December 2017 11:21:59 PM

You might be onto something. It seems a vast majority of POF are qualified to be assistants to the CO.

RS2323 · Senior Member

Anyone have the LT vacancy #s?

fodx · Guru

Why are you guys in such a rush? Enjoy your chart days and shorter tours. Life is good

TransitJoe · Senior Member

25k raise is enough of a reason for me.

4th Time · Senior Member

Some of us been there and done that already. Change is good.

Besides, if your significant other works, you will be hoisted into another tax bracket.... Another thing to think about. More taxes.

-- Edited by 4th Time on Wednesday 27th of December 2017 04:48:52 PM

PD2FD · Guru

fodx wrote:
Why are you guys in such a rush? Enjoy your chart days and shorter tours. Life is good

Let' see:

-Better quality of life

-25K raise

-Career advancement

- 1500 less people telling you what to do

To be continued...

brooklynbacon · Guru

PD2FD wrote:
fodx wrote:
Why are you guys in such a rush? Enjoy your chart days and shorter tours. Life is good
Let' see:
-Better quality of life
-25K raise
-Career advancement
- 1500 less people telling you what to do

To be continued...

How are you guys getting 25k raises? Are you going from PO to LT?

RS2323 · Senior Member

110-85=25

RS2323 · Senior Member

It's actually longer tours, and I can't enjoy my chart days bc I can never use them. I'll take the money and better qol.

wereinbacklog · Guru

4th Time wrote:
Some of us been there and done that already. Change is good.
Besides, if your significant other works, you will be hoisted into another tax bracket.... Another thing to think about. More taxes.

-- Edited by 4th Time on Wednesday 27th of December 2017 04:48:52 PM

Or you can lower your taxable income by increasing your defer comp contribution (37k total for 2018) therefore keeping you in the same tax bracket.

PD2FD · Guru

brooklynbacon wrote:
PD2FD wrote:
fodx wrote:
Why are you guys in such a rush? Enjoy your chart days and shorter tours. Life is good
Let' see:
-Better quality of life
-25K raise
-Career advancement
- 1500 less people telling you what to do

To be continued...
How are you guys getting 25k raises? Are you going from PO to LT?

For those of us who aren't top pay Sgts, the promotion will be close to a 25k raise and that's only taking into account the base pay.

SturdyHairBag · Member

wereinbacklog wrote:
4th Time wrote:
Some of us been there and done that already. Change is good.
Besides, if your significant other works, you will be hoisted into another tax bracket.... Another thing to think about. More taxes.

-- Edited by 4th Time on Wednesday 27th of December 2017 04:48:52 PM
Or you can lower your taxable income by increasing your defer comp contribution (37k total for 2018) therefore keeping you in the same tax bracket.

Anyone on the job can do this. A PO making $100k a year can bring down their taxable income by $37k to $63k before any child tax credits + the new standard deduction. Probably paying nearly no federal taxes at that point.. This isn't just a Lt rank thing, everyone can benefit from this.

wereinbacklog · Guru

SturdyHairBag wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
4th Time wrote:
Some of us been there and done that already. Change is good.
Besides, if your significant other works, you will be hoisted into another tax bracket.... Another thing to think about. More taxes.

-- Edited by 4th Time on Wednesday 27th of December 2017 04:48:52 PM
Or you can lower your taxable income by increasing your defer comp contribution (37k total for 2018) therefore keeping you in the same tax bracket.

Anyone on the job can do this. A PO making $100k a year can bring down their taxable income by $37k to $63k before any child tax credits + the new standard deduction. Probably paying nearly no federal taxes at that point.. This isn't just a Lt rank thing, everyone can benefit from this.

You're right but not many do therefore suggesting it to the OP.

4th Time · Senior Member

Seriously, one of you guys need to pm me with the formulas to raise my contributions from 36k to 63k. How can you do this? Isnt def comp max contribution 18k. 25k if your 50. Where are you guys getting thelse numbers.

Oooh-yeah · Senior Member

I take it no one has any useful info about the list lmao

brooklynbacon · Guru

SturdyHairBag wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
4th Time wrote:
Some of us been there and done that already. Change is good.
Besides, if your significant other works, you will be hoisted into another tax bracket.... Another thing to think about. More taxes.

-- Edited by 4th Time on Wednesday 27th of December 2017 04:48:52 PM
Or you can lower your taxable income by increasing your defer comp contribution (37k total for 2018) therefore keeping you in the same tax bracket.

Anyone on the job can do this. A PO making $100k a year can bring down their taxable income by $37k to $63k before any child tax credits + the new standard deduction. Probably paying nearly no federal taxes at that point.. This isn't just a Lt rank thing, everyone can benefit from this.

How the f can a cop with kids afford to max the 457 and 401 to 36k a year? blankstare

wereinbacklog · Guru

4th Time wrote:
Seriously, one of you guys need to pm me with the formulas to raise my contributions from 36k to 63k. How can you do this? Isnt def comp max contribution 18k. 25k if your 50. Where are you guys getting thelse numbers.

You can max both 457 and 401 (18k each) for a total of 36k. Whatever amount you contribute lowers your taxable income by that much. So if you made 100k and contribute the max 36k you'll only be taxed at 64k of your salary.

-- Edited by wereinbacklog on Thursday 28th of December 2017 01:19:11 AM

ManHands · Senior Member

who cares? is this a pension forum??

how does no one have any rumor news on this list?!