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One porkchop · Veteran Member

Is anyone else hearing March

King780 · Veteran Member

I also heard possible small class in March. Hopefully someone can confirm it.

JustWonderin · Guru

It's always small, lol. How small are we talking? 10?

King780 · Veteran Member

I'm hoping for at least 12-15...but at this point any movement would be good.

If anyone else heard March or had more info feel free to update us

technocrat1 · Guru

Heard 10-12.

DETSGT · Guru

One of the speakers in Lt bmocc also said 10-12

King780 · Veteran Member

I heard the same 10-12, emails went out to Captains to be mentors.

lets hope it's 12 and not 10.

PolicePsychic · Veteran Member

Hi there will be a match class but this will be towards the end of march.

PolicePsychic · Veteran Member

I'm legally a clairvoyant

PolicePsychic · Veteran Member

March 31 everyone

King780 · Veteran Member

How do the notifications for mentoring work...telephone message

and when do you think it will come down

tensixone · Senior Member

Calls went out for mentoring today

PolicePsychic · Veteran Member

I told you so....

One porkchop · Veteran Member

Any idea what number they reached???

PolicePsychic · Veteran Member

10 people

One porkchop · Veteran Member

12 people

tensixone · Senior Member

Passovers maybe?

technocrat1 · Guru

Heard they went pretty far up to get 11, almost up to 20.

wereinbacklog · Guru

Next one up is 84

Bklyn net · Senior Member

12 went in ?

One porkchop · Veteran Member

I think next one up is 85

wereinbacklog · Guru

Was this promotion class cancelled?

JustWonderin · Guru

I heard the same. Can anyone in mentoring advise?

wereinbacklog · Guru

Mentoring was scrapped. Those notified have a meeting at 1pp on Monday.

wereinbacklog · Guru

Apparently beginning some time in June top pay Lt's will make more (base salary) than a 1st year Captain (until the October raise kicks in).

JustWonderin · Guru

I heard the same, but I still don't understand how a difference of $400 is going to hold up promotions. Just promote them and make their pay retroactive. I think there's more to the story

wereinbacklog · Guru

JustWonderin wrote:
I heard the same, but I still don't understand how a difference of $400 is going to hold up promotions. Just promote them and make their pay retroactive. I think there's more to the story

Yeah not sure what's going on.

One porkchop · Veteran Member

Looks

-- Edited by One porkchop on Thursday 16th of March 2017 05:47:25 PM

thisjobsucks · Veteran Member

Anyone know if there will still be promotions this month ?

One porkchop · Veteran Member

Wonder why so quiet .. this was a big meeting today and no information available about it...I think all the people who were called back from mentoring were there... hopefully someone keeps us in the loop

JustWonderin · Guru

- Mentoring begins April 17th

- BMOC is upfront just for this class on May 8th

- Promotion is in June

wereinbacklog · Guru

JustWonderin wrote:
- Mentoring begins April 17th

- BMOC is upfront just for this class on May 8th

- Promotion is in June

What's the reason for it?

JustWonderin · Guru

Same reason as stated above, the contract issue. By June 5th, starting pay Captain will be more than top pay Lieutenant, which is not currently the case. At least that's what I heard

On Point Info · Senior Member

Still hearing late October for the Captain Exam.

DETSGT · Guru

JustWonderin wrote:
Same reason as stated above, the contract issue. By June 5th, starting pay Captain will be more than top pay Lieutenant, which is not currently the case. At least that's what I heard

Actually the opposite is true.

Current pay: June 5th:

Capt $121,441. $121,441

Lt. $118,902. $121, 874

Next Capt raise is Oct/2017 will put the pay at $124,477.

So if a top pay Lt is promoted after June 5th, that's when there will be an issue. However normally when that issue occurs the job simply puts the promotee into the next pay level (thus why detectives goto top pay sgt upon promotion ).

So I don't believe the delay in this promotional class is due to contract issues, instead I believe the job wants to pace captians promotions in case they again lose their fight with Dcas in regards to the date for the next captians exam.

IhaveNoHook · Senior Member

Contract issue or not, I don't know how that would effect the next promotion exam date. It has happened quiet frequently where a new list was not activated for years. They could still give the test in October and hold it until they exhaust the 2014 list. I am always intrigued at where people get all these rumors from.

tensixone · Senior Member

Just wondering is Mentoring and Promotion confirmed for those dates or is this just another rumor?

One porkchop · Veteran Member

I don't think there is an available public school closed on a Wednesday in October.. they would have to use a different test location other han a school... only other free Wednesday is Xmas break and I doubt that... February seems like the best time over president week

IhaveNoHook · Senior Member

One porkchop wrote:
I don't think there is an available public school closed on a Wednesday in October.. they would have to use a different test location other han a school... only other free Wednesday is Xmas break and I doubt that... February seems like the best time over president week

who said test must be administered on a Wednesday in a school? I bet less than 500 take the test and the PA has more than enough room to accommodate that.

Flambino · Senior Member

Maybe they are holding promotions because they can correct the pay disparity after June 5. Maybe if they are promoted before they just have to eat it until October. no intel just a theory

JustWonderin · Guru

tensixone wrote:
Just wondering is Mentoring and Promotion confirmed for those dates or is this just another rumor?

I was told this is what Roy Richter informed the group of the next class of Captains at 1 PP on Monday. The exact dates I posted is what they were told. As far as the test location, one of the owner's of RS previously stated that DCAS is looking to administer the next test electronically, and they are in the process of picking a site. Therefore, the availability of schools has nothing to do with the exam date. Since the entry PO exam is administered electronically, I'm wondering if that's what they will use. Can anyone advise if the testing locations for the entry PO exam can accommodate 400-500 people?

-- Edited by JustWonderin on Wednesday 22nd of March 2017 01:36:11 PM

-- Edited by JustWonderin on Wednesday 22nd of March 2017 01:37:10 PM

JustWonderin · Guru

DETSGT wrote:
JustWonderin wrote:
Same reason as stated above, the contract issue. By June 5th, starting pay Captain will be more than top pay Lieutenant, which is not currently the case. At least that's what I heard

Actually the opposite is true.
Current pay: June 5th:
Capt $121,441. $121,441
Lt. $118,902. $121, 874
Next Capt raise is Oct/2017 will put the pay at $124,477.
So if a top pay Lt is promoted after June 5th, that's when there will be an issue. However normally when that issue occurs the job simply puts the promotee into the next pay level (thus why detectives goto top pay sgt upon promotion ).
So I don't believe the delay in this promotional class is due to contract issues, instead I believe the job wants to pace captians promotions in case they again lose their fight with Dcas in regards to the date for the next captians exam.

The next pay raise for Captain is June 24, 2017 - $123,790, not June 5th as I previously stated. As per Roy Richter, that is why they are waiting for the end of June to promote. "To do the right thing by the next class". What the real reason is, who knows.

-- Edited by JustWonderin on Wednesday 22nd of March 2017 01:30:26 PM

One porkchop · Veteran Member

I don't know where you see that the captain pay raise is on June 24th . I'm looking at the pay grid now sent to me from the CEA directly. the pay raise is indicated as October 1st 2017 2.50 %. Then 3% on same date in 2018. I hope your right though

JustWonderin · Guru

risingstarpromotion.activeboard.com/t62461766/take-home-paycat-1-car/

There is a pay raise in October 2017. But there is also a pay raise on June 24, 2017. I got all of this info from someone who was at the meeting. Take it or leave it porkchop, I'm not the one getting promoted and could care less, lol.

One porkchop · Veteran Member

Looks like your right. I didn't see that June 25th raise. This makes sense now as Ive heard that Capt will go to BMOC first then get promoted at end of June and then strait to commands rather then getting promoted before June 25th creating an issue. Thanks for clarifying that

DETSGT · Guru

JustWonderin wrote:
risingstarpromotion.activeboard.com/t62461766/take-home-paycat-1-car/

There is a pay raise in October 2017. But there is also a pay raise on June 24, 2017. I got all of this info from someone who was at the meeting. Take it or leave it porkchop, I'm not the one getting promoted and could care less, lol.

I'm sorry guys but you're misreading the picture in the above link. That document was specifically created for the captains promoted on June 24th 2016. That's why it shows the contractual raises and the tenured raises that will occur every June 24th (Only captains promoted on June 24 2016 will get a raise on June 24th 2017 to 2nd year captains pay of $123,790).

wereinbacklog · Guru

Next raise is in October folks.

DETSGT · Guru

This is the current CBA contract. There are no other raises.

Bigguy69 · Senior Member

Will this also delay Lieutenant promotions ?

One porkchop · Veteran Member

Happy Easter / Passover to all
Does the mentoring start again tomorrow as pereviously posted it is that in hold as well??
Just curious as to the status .. can anyone advise