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Does any one remember the question about you suspecting mos using illegal drugs and then a cap for the hyperdermic needle falls out? I don't remember the answer choices. anyone remember them? was it one of the challengeable questions?
-- Edited by NYG37 on Friday 25th of November 2011 10:24:49 PM
-- Edited by NYG37 on Friday 25th of November 2011 11:46:11 PM
-- Edited by NYG37 on Saturday 26th of November 2011 02:25:19 AM
I protest that the MOS is potentially a diabetic and I would be violating OEEO policy if I discriminated against him due to his illness! LOL, just kidding guys, had to, just to "laugh to stop from cryin"
I think that question could be protested. I don't know if i got it right or wrong, don't know the number. I wish i would have remember the choices.
Yeah, I guess. Step #1 in the procedure is notify co & having the evidence vouchered is in add. data (which doesn't really stipulate when it occurs). And realistically, are you going to go notify the CO as drug paraphenalia sits on the ground in front of ya?
Thanks, yea i have it wrong , Did that question ask what do you do as the first step ? I'm not trying to grab for straws, but it could possibly be a double answer. It depends how the questions was asked. I believe one of the answers was to voucher the evidence. In P.G it states an investigating supervisor finding controlled substances/contraband , such as drugs or instrument used to ad minter drugs(needs,etc) on or in the vicinity will have such items invoiced on PCI. Anyone remember what the question was looking for and how it was phrased ? Thanks.
They were so grimey on this test, they didnt even give you the full hypo, they said hypo cap. I mean C'MON!!! i chose A for 50. I have it right. I know I didnt voucher it. I believe I told the CO or duty capt.
I don't disagree, its one of the steps for you to take. It's not the only one though. You still have to voucher the evidence. I don't know how i missed that one, but it seems it could be challenged, unless there's more to it.
I do remember the wording on this one because I got it wrong and was going to protest it. The two choices I was wrestling with were 1) immediately notify the CO or 2) immediately voucher the property.
The PG states to notify the CO immediately. The additional data states to voucher the property, but it does not state to do it immediately.
can you really consider a hypo cap contraband evidence? I know of diabetics on this job who carry insulin shots. I do agree this question was one of many really really cheap shot questions.
-- Edited by HabidasheryAuto on Saturday 26th of November 2011 02:17:53 AM
Do you remember how the question was phrased though ? If it asked what to do first then there's no argument and we lost the point. If however they asked what's the most correct answer, then there's more then one correct choice.
Yes, you can because if you read the paragraph in that procedure it lists(hypodermic needle, etc,.) , the whole thing it comes down to now is how the question was worded.
We'll have to wait till the protest day to find out for sure how it was worded then, if it stated next thing to do there's a chance it could have a double answer, otherwise its a lost point.
it also stated that the CO was in conversation with the immediate supervisor of the UMOS in question when you as the Lt approached, so u can argue that the CO was notified since he was present when this conversation occurred. I went with the voucher. It very well may be a double.
Well look at the judgement question when they told you why the sergeant did not get that slot so you knew why he didn't get the detail but apparently they answer was still go find out why did not get the detail.
and if a hypo cap is not the same as a hypo needle, is it really contraband? Therefore, it should not be vouchered, unless the PG is saying to voucher anything a cop drops.
"Ooh, PO Smith just dropped a key, and a key can potentially be used to snort cocaine- Voucher it and notify the CO, quick!"
Another poorly written question. This is why:
205-30, step #1: Immediately notify commanding officer/duty captain or Internal Affairs Bureau Command Center. (option). Selection states Notify CO/DC (half-right). So I guess the next time around we should all study to look for the answers that are half-right then.
"An investigating supervisor finding controlled substances contraband, i.e., drugs or instruments used to administer drugs, e.g., hypodermic syringes/needles, crack pipes, etc., on or in the vicinity of a suspected member of the service (uniformed or civilian) will have such items invoiced on PROPERTY CLERKS INVOICE (PD521-141) as investigatory evidence.."
Etc leaves the window open for other related items such as needle caps
we will see on thursday when we have the test booklet once again. i don't recall it asking for the first step, but then again, it has been 4 weeks since we last viewed it
First immediate step is notify co/duty. I believe the question asked what is your 1st step
It may have in so many words or "most correct". But the invoicing of the hypo cap would fall into the addtional data when it refers to another procedure from 218 and does not follow a sequential order with the rest of the procedure, so its a real cheap shot and I think could be protestable.
The only way they can defend it from a double answer is if they say you as a supervisor are not mentioned as an invoicing officer.
We are not gonna be able to have a double answer for this question. as the choice I picked stated you have to immediately voucher the cap. in additional data it just says to voucher. Not profitable.
so the cap is vouchered but in the stem of the question it asks what you do immediately?
It stated what is the most correct action. However the answer choice for vouchering the cap states to do so immediately but the word "immediately" is not included in the PG note. Cheap shot for sure.
No it asks for the best answer. so the best answer is to notify immediately co. One of the answers was to immediately voucher the cap. additional data states to voucher does not mention word immediately.
, Did that question ask what do you do as the first step ? I'm not trying to grab for straws, but it could possibly be a double answer. It depends how the questions was asked. I believe one of the answers was to voucher the evidence. In P.G it states an investigating supervisor finding controlled substances/contraband , such as drugs or instrument used to ad minter drugs(needs,etc) on or in the vicinity will have such items invoiced on PCI. Anyone remember what the question was looking for and how it was phrased ? Thanks.
